IT was a massive day for the independence movement, with the First Minister firing the starting gun on indyref2, and seting out a path forward.

And so, we had to record a quick podcast to talk about what we think it could mean for Scotland the Yes movement.

To do so, National editor Callum Baird was joined by community editor and columnist Shona Craven.

Also on the agenda is our massive new "10,000 steps to Yes campaign" – find out more on that by clicking here.

You can listen on our soundcloud below, or subscribe on iTunes.