Pendle MP: 'Vote fraud in our towns'

Asian Image: SPARKING DEBATE Andrew Stephenson in the House of Commons yesterday SPARKING DEBATE Andrew Stephenson in the House of Commons yesterday

PENDLE MP Andrew Stephenson has accused members of the Asian community in the borough of participating in electoral fraud involving postal votes.

He made the allegations during a debate in the House of Commons yesterday, where his colleague, Burnley MP Gordon Birtwistle, said he had heard ‘reports of wholesale fraud on an industrial scale’ in the town.

Pendle Council yesterday said that three complaints relating to postal voting in the borough elections on May 3 had been passed on to police.

The Lancashire Telegraph can also reveal that police are investigating postal and proxy votes in two wards in Blackburn with Darwen, whilst a police investigation is continuing into votes in Hyndburn.

Mr Stephenson said that South Asian women in Pendle had spoken to him and said they had no idea who they voted for because their husbands had done it for them, a process known as ‘family voting’.

Pendle’s Labour leader, Coun Mohammed Iqbal, said he took ‘great offence’ to the suggestion that South Asian women did not vote for themselves.

Last year’s Pendle mayor, Coun Nadeem Ahmed, said his experience was ‘totally different’ to that of Mr Stephenson’s.

Mr Stephenson made the comments during a debate on the Electoral Registration and Administration Bill in the House of Commons.

He said: “This is a particular issue in the South Asian community and indeed I have met Asian women in my constituency, who have told me they have no idea who they voted for as their husband did it.

“However, needless to say because of the close family ties and bonds of loyalty, this is not going to be reported to the police or investigated by anyone.

“Apart from electoral fraud taking place, and women and young people losing their right to vote in some households, such goings-on play into a narrative that gives an impetus to groups like the BNP and the EDL.

”I say we cannot allow this to happen.

“We cannot allow electoral fraud and the suspicion of electoral fraud to continue and become another reason for undermining community cohesion.

“It is clear that there is a cultural element to this.

“The current on the demand postal voting regime actively disenfranchises women and young people by allowing “family voting” to occur.

“By family voting I mean where the head of a household will pledge everyone of his families votes to a particular political party.

“He can then ensure that this happens by watching other family members complete their postal ballots, or by completing the ballots himself, or indeed by completing them with an activist from the said political party.”

Mr Stephenson also accused the Labour Party of foul play in its success in the Reedley ward during the borough council elections earlier this month.

He said that in Reedley in 2010, there were 800 postal votes where 3,049 people voted, with the Conservative candidate securing 49 per cent of the vote and being ‘easily elected’.

In 2011 Reedley saw a 25 per cent increase in postal votes and this year, a further increase of almost 25 per cent, an increase of 479 postal votes in two years.

Mr Stephenson said: “Virtually all were from the British Pakistani Community and virtually all were signed up on to postal votes by the Labour Party.

“Not coincidentally, Labour candidates were elected on both occasions. The Conservative vote did not collapse. The Labour victory was not on trend across the constituency. Nonetheless, their support in Reedley rocketed.

“I accept that it is theoretically possible that local support for the Labour candidate did increase significantly, however the 45 per cent increase in the Labour vote in 2011, against the backdrop of an 18 per cent drop in turnout, and given the huge increase in postal votes and reports of party activists walking in to polling stations with piles of 50 votes at a time maybe indicates that was not what really happened.

“It is not so much that the numbers do not add up, but rather that they do.”

Coun Iqbal said: “In Reedley the Conservatives have taken that ward for granted and that is why they lost, but they have had over 800 postal voters signed up in the past there.

“It is quite clear this is a case of sour grapes. They have lost wards they have historically won by a big margin.”

Councillors in Pendle have agreed to set up a task force to look at the allegations of election fraud in the borough.

Five councillors will sit on a working group that will look at concerns about postal and proxy voting.

Two Labour councillors, two Conservative councillors and one Lib Dem councillor will make up the group.

Coun Joe Cooney, leader of the council, said: “People have to come forward and be honest, and if anybody has any evidence then they have to go the police to report it.”

Philip Mousdale, Pendle Council’s director of services and deputy chief executive, said: “We had three complaints related to postal voting activity this year which have been referred to the police.

“None involved fraud, they concerned undesirable activity by party workers. None of the complaints were about the Reedley ward.”

The bill aims to tackle electoral fraud by speeding up the introduction of Individual Electoral Registration (IER) so it is in place by 2015. At present, one person in every household is responsible for registering everyone else who lives at that address. This proposal is for each person being required to register to vote individually, rather than by household.

A civil penalty, such as a fine, could also be introduced for those who do not apply to be registered when required to do so by the Electoral Registration Officer.

Blackburn MP and former Labour Home Secretary Jack Straw said: “What Mr Stephenson has described sounds awful. It is unlawful and should not happen.

“I think there is an even bigger problem where the list of postal voters is published before the election. It is just too tempting for some political workers to abuse.

“It is wrong when someone in the household is dictating how other voters cast their vote but it is not a problem that is exclusively confined to the South Asian community.”

Pendle Liberal Democrat Councillor Tony Greaves, who put forward a motion at the authority’s annual meeting last week launching an investigation into postal vote fraud, said: “It is clear that the family voting tradition in the South Asian community has come into postal voting in some areas of Pendle like Nelson and Brierfield. Mr Stephenson is quite right about this and we need to see an end to postal voting on demand.”

Burnley Liberal Democrat MP Gordon Birtwistle told the same debate in the Commons: “It is not just postal voting but impersonation where some people present themselves at the polling station as someone else to vote. We suspected this but could not produce any hard evidence for the returning officers but we do need an investigation.

“This was happening in wards like Daneshouse, Queensgate and Stoneyholme, where the turnout went up to 60 per cent, and the majority of the community is Asian.

“They appear to have been voting for the winning Labour candidates. We need an end to postal voting on demand and possible even asking people to produce photo-identification at polling stations to stop electoral fraud.”

Rossendale and Darwen Tory MP Jake Berry said: “I do think there are questions about postal voting and electoral fraud being a problem in particular ethnic groups.

“I have heard anecdotal reports about this with the Asian community in Blackburn from party workers but have no direct evidence myself.

“I do support Andrew in cracking down on postal voting on demand except where people can prove they need it.”

Ribble Valley Tory MP and House of Commons Deputy Speaker Nigel Evans said: “This is a problem in some communities and we are not just talking the South Asian community. It happens in some Eastern European families and indeed in some fine ‘Olde English’ communities.

“There needs to be a government investigation. We cannot have our MPs going round the world telling other people how to run elections if this type of family voting is going on at home. ”

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3:19pm Thu 24 May 12

berniep says...

Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.
Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last. berniep
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3:33pm Thu 24 May 12

Tell-it-how-it-is says...

berniep wrote:
Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.
The asian women in pendle probably dont feel save to go out as they feel they might get abused by some drunk idiots and get told to get back to there own country, they might get mugged by some alcoholic drug abusers..and get told to go back to there own country and to top it all off they may get into a road rage incident with some of pendles finest, f1 inspired, taxi drivers. These asians are a nuisance arnt they???? Causing bother with there non intergrating ways...id like to see more of them semi naked on a friday night..completely legless without a clue of what they're doing and with whom. Completely bladdered, yes please-rat faced!!! Id like to see them also committ more burglaries and i want equal representation in the heroin community with these asian non intergraters!!! Staying at home pffft!!!!
[quote][p][bold]berniep[/bold] wrote: Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.[/p][/quote]The asian women in pendle probably dont feel save to go out as they feel they might get abused by some drunk idiots and get told to get back to there own country, they might get mugged by some alcoholic drug abusers..and get told to go back to there own country and to top it all off they may get into a road rage incident with some of pendles finest, f1 inspired, taxi drivers. These asians are a nuisance arnt they???? Causing bother with there non intergrating ways...id like to see more of them semi naked on a friday night..completely legless without a clue of what they're doing and with whom. Completely bladdered, yes please-rat faced!!! Id like to see them also committ more burglaries and i want equal representation in the heroin community with these asian non intergraters!!! Staying at home pffft!!!! Tell-it-how-it-is
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4:00pm Thu 24 May 12

Am i in yet..? says...

Politics is awash with corruption so it makes sense that the Asian community will be involved and even exploit it for their own means were possible.
Politics is awash with corruption so it makes sense that the Asian community will be involved and even exploit it for their own means were possible. Am i in yet..?
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4:01pm Thu 24 May 12

mavrick says...

There is no easy answer to this problem. what goes on behind closed doors etc.
There is no easy answer to this problem. what goes on behind closed doors etc. mavrick
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4:01pm Thu 24 May 12

Tell-it-how-it-is says...

udonmalc wrote:
i did print a reply yesterday.only speaking the truth.but we are not allowed to speake the truth.pensioner
You're not allowed to use the correct grammer by the looks of things. Get down to your library and consult a dictionary squire.
[quote][p][bold]udonmalc[/bold] wrote: i did print a reply yesterday.only speaking the truth.but we are not allowed to speake the truth.pensioner[/p][/quote]You're not allowed to use the correct grammer by the looks of things. Get down to your library and consult a dictionary squire. Tell-it-how-it-is
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4:03pm Thu 24 May 12

Tell-it-how-it-is says...

Am i in yet..? wrote:
Politics is awash with corruption so it makes sense that the Asian community will be involved and even exploit it for their own means were possible.
I suggest you join the other chap in visting the library...did you chaps not do english at school? From your poor spelling you may well be asians in disguise!
[quote][p][bold]Am i in yet..?[/bold] wrote: Politics is awash with corruption so it makes sense that the Asian community will be involved and even exploit it for their own means were possible.[/p][/quote]I suggest you join the other chap in visting the library...did you chaps not do english at school? From your poor spelling you may well be asians in disguise! Tell-it-how-it-is
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4:05pm Thu 24 May 12

will12 says...

The Evidence is for all to see, its just the people in power, police, council etc etc choose to throw it under the carpet !!!

Why ????

Because its not "politically correct", and with the "race" card to back it up, the authorites choose to sweep it under the carpet !!!

Well it looks like the carpet is getting threadbare, and the truth of the last 40 years is emerging !!!!!!

Voting Fraud, Benefit Fraud, Drugs, Corruption, you name a crime, a certain section of our communitiy do it, and get away with it !!!!

And to balance the argument, all those drunken, drug taking, mugging, burglaring scum and **** would be taken off the streets and locked away to rot !!!!

If only Carlsberg did ....................
.......
The Evidence is for all to see, its just the people in power, police, council etc etc choose to throw it under the carpet !!! Why ???? Because its not "politically correct", and with the "race" card to back it up, the authorites choose to sweep it under the carpet !!! Well it looks like the carpet is getting threadbare, and the truth of the last 40 years is emerging !!!!!! Voting Fraud, Benefit Fraud, Drugs, Corruption, you name a crime, a certain section of our communitiy do it, and get away with it !!!! And to balance the argument, all those drunken, drug taking, mugging, burglaring scum and **** would be taken off the streets and locked away to rot !!!! If only Carlsberg did .................... ....... will12
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4:12pm Thu 24 May 12

Tell-it-how-it-is says...

will12 wrote:
The Evidence is for all to see, its just the people in power, police, council etc etc choose to throw it under the carpet !!!

Why ????

Because its not "politically correct", and with the "race" card to back it up, the authorites choose to sweep it under the carpet !!!

Well it looks like the carpet is getting threadbare, and the truth of the last 40 years is emerging !!!!!!

Voting Fraud, Benefit Fraud, Drugs, Corruption, you name a crime, a certain section of our communitiy do it, and get away with it !!!!

And to balance the argument, all those drunken, drug taking, mugging, burglaring scum and **** would be taken off the streets and locked away to rot !!!!

If only Carlsberg did ....................

.......
Are you suggesting that a lot of white people are drunks,drug takers,muggers, burglars?

If so, you are probably correct👍

Lets not forget our politicians anc the expenses scandal? Im suprised there isnt a labour policy entitled "pay for my ****"!!!


They should get all these fraudsters and and drunks,drug takers,muggers, burglars and stick them all on an island and leave them all to it....
[quote][p][bold]will12[/bold] wrote: The Evidence is for all to see, its just the people in power, police, council etc etc choose to throw it under the carpet !!! Why ???? Because its not "politically correct", and with the "race" card to back it up, the authorites choose to sweep it under the carpet !!! Well it looks like the carpet is getting threadbare, and the truth of the last 40 years is emerging !!!!!! Voting Fraud, Benefit Fraud, Drugs, Corruption, you name a crime, a certain section of our communitiy do it, and get away with it !!!! And to balance the argument, all those drunken, drug taking, mugging, burglaring scum and **** would be taken off the streets and locked away to rot !!!! If only Carlsberg did .................... .......[/p][/quote]Are you suggesting that a lot of white people are drunks,drug takers,muggers, burglars? If so, you are probably correct👍 Lets not forget our politicians anc the expenses scandal? Im suprised there isnt a labour policy entitled "pay for my ****"!!! They should get all these fraudsters and and drunks,drug takers,muggers, burglars and stick them all on an island and leave them all to it.... Tell-it-how-it-is
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4:21pm Thu 24 May 12

ToffeeGuy says...

"....it is not a problem that is exclusively confined to the South Asian community.”

This excuse is always trotted out and is used to deflect underlining problems within a culture. Let's look at the percentages then.

I don't agreed with Mr Stephenson on a lot of things but on this he is 100% right. And it is up to the political parties to sort it out.

Perhaps the Pendle task force can also investigate the Biraderi system of clan loyalty and it's influence on local elections.

It would be interesting to see how many voters are from the Jats and Bains clans from the Mirpur region of Kashmir and if the Councillors are as well.
"....it is not a problem that is exclusively confined to the South Asian community.” This excuse is always trotted out and is used to deflect underlining problems within a culture. Let's look at the percentages then. I don't agreed with Mr Stephenson on a lot of things but on this he is 100% right. And it is up to the political parties to sort it out. Perhaps the Pendle task force can also investigate the Biraderi system of clan loyalty and it's influence on local elections. It would be interesting to see how many voters are from the Jats and Bains clans from the Mirpur region of Kashmir and if the Councillors are as well. ToffeeGuy
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4:29pm Thu 24 May 12

Tell-it-how-it-is says...

ToffeeGuy wrote:
"....it is not a problem that is exclusively confined to the South Asian community.”

This excuse is always trotted out and is used to deflect underlining problems within a culture. Let's look at the percentages then.

I don't agreed with Mr Stephenson on a lot of things but on this he is 100% right. And it is up to the political parties to sort it out.

Perhaps the Pendle task force can also investigate the Biraderi system of clan loyalty and it's influence on local elections.

It would be interesting to see how many voters are from the Jats and Bains clans from the Mirpur region of Kashmir and if the Councillors are as well.
The majority of your post is targeted drivel. There should be reforms in the process of voting that try to eliminate any form of fraud..by looking at weaknesses in the process, not targeting a minority of the community then further trying to break down the caste system to establish who the cheats are. We already have enough tax payers money being wasted as it is, the last thing we need in these times of austerity is nonsensical suggestions such as yours.
[quote][p][bold]ToffeeGuy[/bold] wrote: "....it is not a problem that is exclusively confined to the South Asian community.” This excuse is always trotted out and is used to deflect underlining problems within a culture. Let's look at the percentages then. I don't agreed with Mr Stephenson on a lot of things but on this he is 100% right. And it is up to the political parties to sort it out. Perhaps the Pendle task force can also investigate the Biraderi system of clan loyalty and it's influence on local elections. It would be interesting to see how many voters are from the Jats and Bains clans from the Mirpur region of Kashmir and if the Councillors are as well.[/p][/quote]The majority of your post is targeted drivel. There should be reforms in the process of voting that try to eliminate any form of fraud..by looking at weaknesses in the process, not targeting a minority of the community then further trying to break down the caste system to establish who the cheats are. We already have enough tax payers money being wasted as it is, the last thing we need in these times of austerity is nonsensical suggestions such as yours. Tell-it-how-it-is
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4:30pm Thu 24 May 12

mavrick says...

Why is there no comments allowed on the reply story to this one?????
Why is there no comments allowed on the reply story to this one????? mavrick
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4:45pm Thu 24 May 12

midas says...

The voting patterns are already out there. Perhaps someone at the LET could produce a table showing each ward, the number of votes, the number of postal votes and the % turnout.
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In the last election the average turnout for Burnley was less than 30% except for one ward where the turnout was over 65% - how many postal votes?
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Perhaps we would make some progress on this issue if some of the local Pakistani politicians acknowledged it was an issue.
The voting patterns are already out there. Perhaps someone at the LET could produce a table showing each ward, the number of votes, the number of postal votes and the % turnout. . In the last election the average turnout for Burnley was less than 30% except for one ward where the turnout was over 65% - how many postal votes? . Perhaps we would make some progress on this issue if some of the local Pakistani politicians acknowledged it was an issue. midas
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4:50pm Thu 24 May 12

Tell-it-how-it-is says...

midas wrote:
The voting patterns are already out there. Perhaps someone at the LET could produce a table showing each ward, the number of votes, the number of postal votes and the % turnout.
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In the last election the average turnout for Burnley was less than 30% except for one ward where the turnout was over 65% - how many postal votes?
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Perhaps we would make some progress on this issue if some of the local Pakistani politicians acknowledged it was an issue.
The local pakistani politicians, like most politicians are bent and look after there own interests. The expenses claims scandal highlighted this..wether it was the home secretary claiming for p o r n channel expenses or Mr Malik from burnley claiming for home entertainment equipment!!!
[quote][p][bold]midas[/bold] wrote: The voting patterns are already out there. Perhaps someone at the LET could produce a table showing each ward, the number of votes, the number of postal votes and the % turnout. . In the last election the average turnout for Burnley was less than 30% except for one ward where the turnout was over 65% - how many postal votes? . Perhaps we would make some progress on this issue if some of the local Pakistani politicians acknowledged it was an issue.[/p][/quote]The local pakistani politicians, like most politicians are bent and look after there own interests. The expenses claims scandal highlighted this..wether it was the home secretary claiming for p o r n channel expenses or Mr Malik from burnley claiming for home entertainment equipment!!! Tell-it-how-it-is
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5:11pm Thu 24 May 12

Coeur de Lion says...

No one should be allowed a proxy vote unless it can be shown that they cannot drag their idle a**es down to the polling station for a genuine reason, and this should be backed up by documentary evidence and they should not be allowed to enter a polling station with their faces covered.
No one should be allowed a proxy vote unless it can be shown that they cannot drag their idle a**es down to the polling station for a genuine reason, and this should be backed up by documentary evidence and they should not be allowed to enter a polling station with their faces covered. Coeur de Lion
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5:11pm Thu 24 May 12

ToffeeGuy says...

Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
ToffeeGuy wrote:
"....it is not a problem that is exclusively confined to the South Asian community.”

This excuse is always trotted out and is used to deflect underlining problems within a culture. Let's look at the percentages then.

I don't agreed with Mr Stephenson on a lot of things but on this he is 100% right. And it is up to the political parties to sort it out.

Perhaps the Pendle task force can also investigate the Biraderi system of clan loyalty and it's influence on local elections.

It would be interesting to see how many voters are from the Jats and Bains clans from the Mirpur region of Kashmir and if the Councillors are as well.
The majority of your post is targeted drivel. There should be reforms in the process of voting that try to eliminate any form of fraud..by looking at weaknesses in the process, not targeting a minority of the community then further trying to break down the caste system to establish who the cheats are. We already have enough tax payers money being wasted as it is, the last thing we need in these times of austerity is nonsensical suggestions such as yours.
Who is a minority? In many wards this issue is a majority issue. This isn't targeting a community which is a minority any more and can hid behind community secrecy and a clan system transplanted from a mainly rural 3rd world country.

More and more as a minority becomes a majority these issues will be shown up even more. If we want to protect the rule of law and our 1st world democracy it has to be highlighted and dealt with.
[quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ToffeeGuy[/bold] wrote: "....it is not a problem that is exclusively confined to the South Asian community.” This excuse is always trotted out and is used to deflect underlining problems within a culture. Let's look at the percentages then. I don't agreed with Mr Stephenson on a lot of things but on this he is 100% right. And it is up to the political parties to sort it out. Perhaps the Pendle task force can also investigate the Biraderi system of clan loyalty and it's influence on local elections. It would be interesting to see how many voters are from the Jats and Bains clans from the Mirpur region of Kashmir and if the Councillors are as well.[/p][/quote]The majority of your post is targeted drivel. There should be reforms in the process of voting that try to eliminate any form of fraud..by looking at weaknesses in the process, not targeting a minority of the community then further trying to break down the caste system to establish who the cheats are. We already have enough tax payers money being wasted as it is, the last thing we need in these times of austerity is nonsensical suggestions such as yours.[/p][/quote]Who is a minority? In many wards this issue is a majority issue. This isn't targeting a community which is a minority any more and can hid behind community secrecy and a clan system transplanted from a mainly rural 3rd world country. More and more as a minority becomes a majority these issues will be shown up even more. If we want to protect the rule of law and our 1st world democracy it has to be highlighted and dealt with. ToffeeGuy
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5:14pm Thu 24 May 12

Tell-it-how-it-is says...

Third world countries? You're right, it'll be easy to identify he cheats as they turn up to park there goats in the car park!!
Third world countries? You're right, it'll be easy to identify he cheats as they turn up to park there goats in the car park!! Tell-it-how-it-is
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5:18pm Thu 24 May 12

Tell-it-how-it-is says...

ToffeeGuy wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
ToffeeGuy wrote:
"....it is not a problem that is exclusively confined to the South Asian community.”

This excuse is always trotted out and is used to deflect underlining problems within a culture. Let's look at the percentages then.

I don't agreed with Mr Stephenson on a lot of things but on this he is 100% right. And it is up to the political parties to sort it out.

Perhaps the Pendle task force can also investigate the Biraderi system of clan loyalty and it's influence on local elections.

It would be interesting to see how many voters are from the Jats and Bains clans from the Mirpur region of Kashmir and if the Councillors are as well.
The majority of your post is targeted drivel. There should be reforms in the process of voting that try to eliminate any form of fraud..by looking at weaknesses in the process, not targeting a minority of the community then further trying to break down the caste system to establish who the cheats are. We already have enough tax payers money being wasted as it is, the last thing we need in these times of austerity is nonsensical suggestions such as yours.
Who is a minority? In many wards this issue is a majority issue. This isn't targeting a community which is a minority any more and can hid behind community secrecy and a clan system transplanted from a mainly rural 3rd world country.

More and more as a minority becomes a majority these issues will be shown up even more. If we want to protect the rule of law and our 1st world democracy it has to be highlighted and dealt with.
The clan/caste system originated in india (third world?) for the purposes of this article. You'd do well to have a gander at there gdp (gross domestic product) and comparing it to the Uks which in comparison is like a white person intoxicated at the weekend..flat on its backside with no hope :)
[quote][p][bold]ToffeeGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ToffeeGuy[/bold] wrote: "....it is not a problem that is exclusively confined to the South Asian community.” This excuse is always trotted out and is used to deflect underlining problems within a culture. Let's look at the percentages then. I don't agreed with Mr Stephenson on a lot of things but on this he is 100% right. And it is up to the political parties to sort it out. Perhaps the Pendle task force can also investigate the Biraderi system of clan loyalty and it's influence on local elections. It would be interesting to see how many voters are from the Jats and Bains clans from the Mirpur region of Kashmir and if the Councillors are as well.[/p][/quote]The majority of your post is targeted drivel. There should be reforms in the process of voting that try to eliminate any form of fraud..by looking at weaknesses in the process, not targeting a minority of the community then further trying to break down the caste system to establish who the cheats are. We already have enough tax payers money being wasted as it is, the last thing we need in these times of austerity is nonsensical suggestions such as yours.[/p][/quote]Who is a minority? In many wards this issue is a majority issue. This isn't targeting a community which is a minority any more and can hid behind community secrecy and a clan system transplanted from a mainly rural 3rd world country. More and more as a minority becomes a majority these issues will be shown up even more. If we want to protect the rule of law and our 1st world democracy it has to be highlighted and dealt with.[/p][/quote]The clan/caste system originated in india (third world?) for the purposes of this article. You'd do well to have a gander at there gdp (gross domestic product) and comparing it to the Uks which in comparison is like a white person intoxicated at the weekend..flat on its backside with no hope :) Tell-it-how-it-is
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8:37pm Thu 24 May 12

jack daniels says...

Let’s be honest; he's only said what a lot of people already think. Whether it is true or not, this is one more example of how people think the Asian community does things.

Maybe people should be asking how the Asian community rids itself of this, and many of the other stereotypes that return again and again to the front pages of the local and national press.

What is obvious is that these stereotypes show the Asian community clinging onto the customs and practices of their heritage; in stark contrast to the western practices of their homeland.
Let’s be honest; he's only said what a lot of people already think. Whether it is true or not, this is one more example of how people think the Asian community does things. Maybe people should be asking how the Asian community rids itself of this, and many of the other stereotypes that return again and again to the front pages of the local and national press. What is obvious is that these stereotypes show the Asian community clinging onto the customs and practices of their heritage; in stark contrast to the western practices of their homeland. jack daniels
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8:42pm Thu 24 May 12

jack daniels says...

Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
ToffeeGuy wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
ToffeeGuy wrote: "....it is not a problem that is exclusively confined to the South Asian community.” This excuse is always trotted out and is used to deflect underlining problems within a culture. Let's look at the percentages then. I don't agreed with Mr Stephenson on a lot of things but on this he is 100% right. And it is up to the political parties to sort it out. Perhaps the Pendle task force can also investigate the Biraderi system of clan loyalty and it's influence on local elections. It would be interesting to see how many voters are from the Jats and Bains clans from the Mirpur region of Kashmir and if the Councillors are as well.
The majority of your post is targeted drivel. There should be reforms in the process of voting that try to eliminate any form of fraud..by looking at weaknesses in the process, not targeting a minority of the community then further trying to break down the caste system to establish who the cheats are. We already have enough tax payers money being wasted as it is, the last thing we need in these times of austerity is nonsensical suggestions such as yours.
Who is a minority? In many wards this issue is a majority issue. This isn't targeting a community which is a minority any more and can hid behind community secrecy and a clan system transplanted from a mainly rural 3rd world country. More and more as a minority becomes a majority these issues will be shown up even more. If we want to protect the rule of law and our 1st world democracy it has to be highlighted and dealt with.
The clan/caste system originated in india (third world?) for the purposes of this article. You'd do well to have a gander at there gdp (gross domestic product) and comparing it to the Uks which in comparison is like a white person intoxicated at the weekend..flat on its backside with no hope :)
If we are looking at stereotyping; I’d rather be intoxicated on my back after a good night on the tiles instead of strangling my eldest daughter because of some crazy concept of honour.

:0P
[quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ToffeeGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ToffeeGuy[/bold] wrote: "....it is not a problem that is exclusively confined to the South Asian community.” This excuse is always trotted out and is used to deflect underlining problems within a culture. Let's look at the percentages then. I don't agreed with Mr Stephenson on a lot of things but on this he is 100% right. And it is up to the political parties to sort it out. Perhaps the Pendle task force can also investigate the Biraderi system of clan loyalty and it's influence on local elections. It would be interesting to see how many voters are from the Jats and Bains clans from the Mirpur region of Kashmir and if the Councillors are as well.[/p][/quote]The majority of your post is targeted drivel. There should be reforms in the process of voting that try to eliminate any form of fraud..by looking at weaknesses in the process, not targeting a minority of the community then further trying to break down the caste system to establish who the cheats are. We already have enough tax payers money being wasted as it is, the last thing we need in these times of austerity is nonsensical suggestions such as yours.[/p][/quote]Who is a minority? In many wards this issue is a majority issue. This isn't targeting a community which is a minority any more and can hid behind community secrecy and a clan system transplanted from a mainly rural 3rd world country. More and more as a minority becomes a majority these issues will be shown up even more. If we want to protect the rule of law and our 1st world democracy it has to be highlighted and dealt with.[/p][/quote]The clan/caste system originated in india (third world?) for the purposes of this article. You'd do well to have a gander at there gdp (gross domestic product) and comparing it to the Uks which in comparison is like a white person intoxicated at the weekend..flat on its backside with no hope :)[/p][/quote]If we are looking at stereotyping; I’d rather be intoxicated on my back after a good night on the tiles instead of strangling my eldest daughter because of some crazy concept of honour. :0P jack daniels
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8:53pm Thu 24 May 12

Tell-it-how-it-is says...

jack daniels wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
ToffeeGuy wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
ToffeeGuy wrote: "....it is not a problem that is exclusively confined to the South Asian community.” This excuse is always trotted out and is used to deflect underlining problems within a culture. Let's look at the percentages then. I don't agreed with Mr Stephenson on a lot of things but on this he is 100% right. And it is up to the political parties to sort it out. Perhaps the Pendle task force can also investigate the Biraderi system of clan loyalty and it's influence on local elections. It would be interesting to see how many voters are from the Jats and Bains clans from the Mirpur region of Kashmir and if the Councillors are as well.
The majority of your post is targeted drivel. There should be reforms in the process of voting that try to eliminate any form of fraud..by looking at weaknesses in the process, not targeting a minority of the community then further trying to break down the caste system to establish who the cheats are. We already have enough tax payers money being wasted as it is, the last thing we need in these times of austerity is nonsensical suggestions such as yours.
Who is a minority? In many wards this issue is a majority issue. This isn't targeting a community which is a minority any more and can hid behind community secrecy and a clan system transplanted from a mainly rural 3rd world country. More and more as a minority becomes a majority these issues will be shown up even more. If we want to protect the rule of law and our 1st world democracy it has to be highlighted and dealt with.
The clan/caste system originated in india (third world?) for the purposes of this article. You'd do well to have a gander at there gdp (gross domestic product) and comparing it to the Uks which in comparison is like a white person intoxicated at the weekend..flat on its backside with no hope :)
If we are looking at stereotyping; I’d rather be intoxicated on my back after a good night on the tiles instead of strangling my eldest daughter because of some crazy concept of honour.

:0P
Well the irony is that whilst you'd be on your back, your daughter probably would be as well...before you know it up the duff, leaving school early, and be nicely accommodated with a council house whilst the tax payer pays for her milk tokens and wkds on a friday and saturday night so she can repeat the process. And these young white girls arnt up for it? You think britain has the highest rate of pregnancies in modern europe because they like playing hopscotch with a hint of ludo? Thats the reality chum...day in day out. As far as the Ahmed case goes..without giving too much away, the parents were never charged initially. The dead daughters sister (who was busy getting drunk and having a good time when her sister was allegedly murdered)-drinking cider underage with her white friends (reference daily mail today) set up an aggravated robbery at her parents home, only came forward once she was charged with this robbery and was given an incentive if she came forward with new information. Shes about as unsavoury a character as half the drunken clowns that feature in this publication..you'd do well to seperate the wheat from the chaff.
[quote][p][bold]jack daniels[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ToffeeGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ToffeeGuy[/bold] wrote: "....it is not a problem that is exclusively confined to the South Asian community.” This excuse is always trotted out and is used to deflect underlining problems within a culture. Let's look at the percentages then. I don't agreed with Mr Stephenson on a lot of things but on this he is 100% right. And it is up to the political parties to sort it out. Perhaps the Pendle task force can also investigate the Biraderi system of clan loyalty and it's influence on local elections. It would be interesting to see how many voters are from the Jats and Bains clans from the Mirpur region of Kashmir and if the Councillors are as well.[/p][/quote]The majority of your post is targeted drivel. There should be reforms in the process of voting that try to eliminate any form of fraud..by looking at weaknesses in the process, not targeting a minority of the community then further trying to break down the caste system to establish who the cheats are. We already have enough tax payers money being wasted as it is, the last thing we need in these times of austerity is nonsensical suggestions such as yours.[/p][/quote]Who is a minority? In many wards this issue is a majority issue. This isn't targeting a community which is a minority any more and can hid behind community secrecy and a clan system transplanted from a mainly rural 3rd world country. More and more as a minority becomes a majority these issues will be shown up even more. If we want to protect the rule of law and our 1st world democracy it has to be highlighted and dealt with.[/p][/quote]The clan/caste system originated in india (third world?) for the purposes of this article. You'd do well to have a gander at there gdp (gross domestic product) and comparing it to the Uks which in comparison is like a white person intoxicated at the weekend..flat on its backside with no hope :)[/p][/quote]If we are looking at stereotyping; I’d rather be intoxicated on my back after a good night on the tiles instead of strangling my eldest daughter because of some crazy concept of honour. :0P[/p][/quote]Well the irony is that whilst you'd be on your back, your daughter probably would be as well...before you know it up the duff, leaving school early, and be nicely accommodated with a council house whilst the tax payer pays for her milk tokens and wkds on a friday and saturday night so she can repeat the process. And these young white girls arnt up for it? You think britain has the highest rate of pregnancies in modern europe because they like playing hopscotch with a hint of ludo? Thats the reality chum...day in day out. As far as the Ahmed case goes..without giving too much away, the parents were never charged initially. The dead daughters sister (who was busy getting drunk and having a good time when her sister was allegedly murdered)-drinking cider underage with her white friends (reference daily mail today) set up an aggravated robbery at her parents home, only came forward once she was charged with this robbery and was given an incentive if she came forward with new information. Shes about as unsavoury a character as half the drunken clowns that feature in this publication..you'd do well to seperate the wheat from the chaff. Tell-it-how-it-is
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10:06pm Thu 24 May 12

jack daniels says...

Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
jack daniels wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
ToffeeGuy wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
ToffeeGuy wrote: "....it is not a problem that is exclusively confined to the South Asian community.” This excuse is always trotted out and is used to deflect underlining problems within a culture. Let's look at the percentages then. I don't agreed with Mr Stephenson on a lot of things but on this he is 100% right. And it is up to the political parties to sort it out. Perhaps the Pendle task force can also investigate the Biraderi system of clan loyalty and it's influence on local elections. It would be interesting to see how many voters are from the Jats and Bains clans from the Mirpur region of Kashmir and if the Councillors are as well.
The majority of your post is targeted drivel. There should be reforms in the process of voting that try to eliminate any form of fraud..by looking at weaknesses in the process, not targeting a minority of the community then further trying to break down the caste system to establish who the cheats are. We already have enough tax payers money being wasted as it is, the last thing we need in these times of austerity is nonsensical suggestions such as yours.
Who is a minority? In many wards this issue is a majority issue. This isn't targeting a community which is a minority any more and can hid behind community secrecy and a clan system transplanted from a mainly rural 3rd world country. More and more as a minority becomes a majority these issues will be shown up even more. If we want to protect the rule of law and our 1st world democracy it has to be highlighted and dealt with.
The clan/caste system originated in india (third world?) for the purposes of this article. You'd do well to have a gander at there gdp (gross domestic product) and comparing it to the Uks which in comparison is like a white person intoxicated at the weekend..flat on its backside with no hope :)
If we are looking at stereotyping; I’d rather be intoxicated on my back after a good night on the tiles instead of strangling my eldest daughter because of some crazy concept of honour.

:0P
Well the irony is that whilst you'd be on your back, your daughter probably would be as well...before you know it up the duff, leaving school early, and be nicely accommodated with a council house whilst the tax payer pays for her milk tokens and wkds on a friday and saturday night so she can repeat the process. And these young white girls arnt up for it? You think britain has the highest rate of pregnancies in modern europe because they like playing hopscotch with a hint of ludo? Thats the reality chum...day in day out. As far as the Ahmed case goes..without giving too much away, the parents were never charged initially. The dead daughters sister (who was busy getting drunk and having a good time when her sister was allegedly murdered)-drinking cider underage with her white friends (reference daily mail today) set up an aggravated robbery at her parents home, only came forward once she was charged with this robbery and was given an incentive if she came forward with new information. Shes about as unsavoury a character as half the drunken clowns that feature in this publication..you'd do well to seperate the wheat from the chaff.
That's strange because I thought the daughter was with the family when it happened. I aplomb heard that they had decided her fate too. As for facts and figures. Asians in prison as a percentage compared to the U.K. Population is always a good one.

Daughters. How many have been whisked off to the Asian sub continent to take part in an arranged marriage; one that that is not consented and they refuse to hand back their passports when they are abroad. Selling their daughters to life of rape and slavery.... It makes me sick.
[quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jack daniels[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ToffeeGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ToffeeGuy[/bold] wrote: "....it is not a problem that is exclusively confined to the South Asian community.” This excuse is always trotted out and is used to deflect underlining problems within a culture. Let's look at the percentages then. I don't agreed with Mr Stephenson on a lot of things but on this he is 100% right. And it is up to the political parties to sort it out. Perhaps the Pendle task force can also investigate the Biraderi system of clan loyalty and it's influence on local elections. It would be interesting to see how many voters are from the Jats and Bains clans from the Mirpur region of Kashmir and if the Councillors are as well.[/p][/quote]The majority of your post is targeted drivel. There should be reforms in the process of voting that try to eliminate any form of fraud..by looking at weaknesses in the process, not targeting a minority of the community then further trying to break down the caste system to establish who the cheats are. We already have enough tax payers money being wasted as it is, the last thing we need in these times of austerity is nonsensical suggestions such as yours.[/p][/quote]Who is a minority? In many wards this issue is a majority issue. This isn't targeting a community which is a minority any more and can hid behind community secrecy and a clan system transplanted from a mainly rural 3rd world country. More and more as a minority becomes a majority these issues will be shown up even more. If we want to protect the rule of law and our 1st world democracy it has to be highlighted and dealt with.[/p][/quote]The clan/caste system originated in india (third world?) for the purposes of this article. You'd do well to have a gander at there gdp (gross domestic product) and comparing it to the Uks which in comparison is like a white person intoxicated at the weekend..flat on its backside with no hope :)[/p][/quote]If we are looking at stereotyping; I’d rather be intoxicated on my back after a good night on the tiles instead of strangling my eldest daughter because of some crazy concept of honour. :0P[/p][/quote]Well the irony is that whilst you'd be on your back, your daughter probably would be as well...before you know it up the duff, leaving school early, and be nicely accommodated with a council house whilst the tax payer pays for her milk tokens and wkds on a friday and saturday night so she can repeat the process. And these young white girls arnt up for it? You think britain has the highest rate of pregnancies in modern europe because they like playing hopscotch with a hint of ludo? Thats the reality chum...day in day out. As far as the Ahmed case goes..without giving too much away, the parents were never charged initially. The dead daughters sister (who was busy getting drunk and having a good time when her sister was allegedly murdered)-drinking cider underage with her white friends (reference daily mail today) set up an aggravated robbery at her parents home, only came forward once she was charged with this robbery and was given an incentive if she came forward with new information. Shes about as unsavoury a character as half the drunken clowns that feature in this publication..you'd do well to seperate the wheat from the chaff.[/p][/quote]That's strange because I thought the daughter was with the family when it happened. I aplomb heard that they had decided her fate too. As for facts and figures. Asians in prison as a percentage compared to the U.K. Population is always a good one. Daughters. How many have been whisked off to the Asian sub continent to take part in an arranged marriage; one that that is not consented and they refuse to hand back their passports when they are abroad. Selling their daughters to life of rape and slavery.... It makes me sick. jack daniels
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10:25pm Thu 24 May 12

Graham Hartley says...

Jack Straw - “It is wrong when someone in the household is dictating how other voters cast their vote but it is not a problem that is exclusively confined to the South Asian community.”

If one case can be found in which a householder dictates the voting preferences of others in the same household and that household is not part of the South Asian community, then Jack Straw's claim is established; yet he does not supply details of such a case.
Jack Straw - “It is wrong when someone in the household is dictating how other voters cast their vote but it is not a problem that is exclusively confined to the South Asian community.” If one case can be found in which a householder dictates the voting preferences of others in the same household and that household is not part of the South Asian community, then Jack Straw's claim is established; yet he does not supply details of such a case. Graham Hartley
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10:25pm Thu 24 May 12

Tell-it-how-it-is says...

Wow, you'd make an excellent detective..you could just make th witness statements up and then under cross examination tell the defence what you'd 'heard'. Asians in prisons as a percentage? What facts and figures have you presented? Stuff you've heard in the playground? The problem with people like yourself is a sheer lack of knowledge and an abundance of ignorance and arrogance. So much so that you come across as a first class buffon.

Selling daughters to a life of rape and slavery? Good god man-you are out of touch. Again no facts, just stuff you've heard.

I pity people like you..you people dont hold anything in life dear or sacred.

From a young age your past time is to lose control of your senses, you sleep about that much that by the time you're in your 20s god knows what kind of germs you've caught and passed on. Infact everyones slept with everyone!!!

You dont give a toss about your parents and just pack them off into a home so you don have to do anything for them or bare any responsibility.

This isnt what ive heard third hand, its what i see everyday. Its what i read everyday.

You feel sick over fiction, i pity you with an abundance of facts.
Wow, you'd make an excellent detective..you could just make th witness statements up and then under cross examination tell the defence what you'd 'heard'. Asians in prisons as a percentage? What facts and figures have you presented? Stuff you've heard in the playground? The problem with people like yourself is a sheer lack of knowledge and an abundance of ignorance and arrogance. So much so that you come across as a first class buffon. Selling daughters to a life of rape and slavery? Good god man-you are out of touch. Again no facts, just stuff you've heard. I pity people like you..you people dont hold anything in life dear or sacred. From a young age your past time is to lose control of your senses, you sleep about that much that by the time you're in your 20s god knows what kind of germs you've caught and passed on. Infact everyones slept with everyone!!! You dont give a toss about your parents and just pack them off into a home so you don have to do anything for them or bare any responsibility. This isnt what ive heard third hand, its what i see everyday. Its what i read everyday. You feel sick over fiction, i pity you with an abundance of facts. Tell-it-how-it-is
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10:32pm Thu 24 May 12

Tell-it-how-it-is says...

Theres nothing more i can add to these comments.... Ive made my sentiments loud and clear. Goodnight and god bless xx
Theres nothing more i can add to these comments.... Ive made my sentiments loud and clear. Goodnight and god bless xx Tell-it-how-it-is
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10:33pm Thu 24 May 12

ToffeeGuy says...

Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
jack daniels wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
ToffeeGuy wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
ToffeeGuy wrote: "....it is not a problem that is exclusively confined to the South Asian community.” This excuse is always trotted out and is used to deflect underlining problems within a culture. Let's look at the percentages then. I don't agreed with Mr Stephenson on a lot of things but on this he is 100% right. And it is up to the political parties to sort it out. Perhaps the Pendle task force can also investigate the Biraderi system of clan loyalty and it's influence on local elections. It would be interesting to see how many voters are from the Jats and Bains clans from the Mirpur region of Kashmir and if the Councillors are as well.
The majority of your post is targeted drivel. There should be reforms in the process of voting that try to eliminate any form of fraud..by looking at weaknesses in the process, not targeting a minority of the community then further trying to break down the caste system to establish who the cheats are. We already have enough tax payers money being wasted as it is, the last thing we need in these times of austerity is nonsensical suggestions such as yours.
Who is a minority? In many wards this issue is a majority issue. This isn't targeting a community which is a minority any more and can hid behind community secrecy and a clan system transplanted from a mainly rural 3rd world country. More and more as a minority becomes a majority these issues will be shown up even more. If we want to protect the rule of law and our 1st world democracy it has to be highlighted and dealt with.
The clan/caste system originated in india (third world?) for the purposes of this article. You'd do well to have a gander at there gdp (gross domestic product) and comparing it to the Uks which in comparison is like a white person intoxicated at the weekend..flat on its backside with no hope :)
If we are looking at stereotyping; I’d rather be intoxicated on my back after a good night on the tiles instead of strangling my eldest daughter because of some crazy concept of honour.

:0P
Well the irony is that whilst you'd be on your back, your daughter probably would be as well...before you know it up the duff, leaving school early, and be nicely accommodated with a council house whilst the tax payer pays for her milk tokens and wkds on a friday and saturday night so she can repeat the process. And these young white girls arnt up for it? You think britain has the highest rate of pregnancies in modern europe because they like playing hopscotch with a hint of ludo? Thats the reality chum...day in day out. As far as the Ahmed case goes..without giving too much away, the parents were never charged initially. The dead daughters sister (who was busy getting drunk and having a good time when her sister was allegedly murdered)-drinking cider underage with her white friends (reference daily mail today) set up an aggravated robbery at her parents home, only came forward once she was charged with this robbery and was given an incentive if she came forward with new information. Shes about as unsavoury a character as half the drunken clowns that feature in this publication..you'd do well to seperate the wheat from the chaff.
"The clan/caste system originated in india (third world?)." Maybe 2nd World if I'm being generous. Then again I looked up India on the BBC website and it said only 46.9% of households have lavatories while 49.8% defecate in the open. So probably 3rd World.

It is common for some cultures to sum up white people as promiscuous drunks. This suits their way of looking at the world. Which is narrow and naive. These choose these views because it fits their own way of living, bound by outdated tradition, out of touch with the modern world, in desperate need of reform but unable to do so because of a bullying patriarchal hierarchy in enclosed communities.

I'd rather be drunk than oppressed.
[quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jack daniels[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ToffeeGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ToffeeGuy[/bold] wrote: "....it is not a problem that is exclusively confined to the South Asian community.” This excuse is always trotted out and is used to deflect underlining problems within a culture. Let's look at the percentages then. I don't agreed with Mr Stephenson on a lot of things but on this he is 100% right. And it is up to the political parties to sort it out. Perhaps the Pendle task force can also investigate the Biraderi system of clan loyalty and it's influence on local elections. It would be interesting to see how many voters are from the Jats and Bains clans from the Mirpur region of Kashmir and if the Councillors are as well.[/p][/quote]The majority of your post is targeted drivel. There should be reforms in the process of voting that try to eliminate any form of fraud..by looking at weaknesses in the process, not targeting a minority of the community then further trying to break down the caste system to establish who the cheats are. We already have enough tax payers money being wasted as it is, the last thing we need in these times of austerity is nonsensical suggestions such as yours.[/p][/quote]Who is a minority? In many wards this issue is a majority issue. This isn't targeting a community which is a minority any more and can hid behind community secrecy and a clan system transplanted from a mainly rural 3rd world country. More and more as a minority becomes a majority these issues will be shown up even more. If we want to protect the rule of law and our 1st world democracy it has to be highlighted and dealt with.[/p][/quote]The clan/caste system originated in india (third world?) for the purposes of this article. You'd do well to have a gander at there gdp (gross domestic product) and comparing it to the Uks which in comparison is like a white person intoxicated at the weekend..flat on its backside with no hope :)[/p][/quote]If we are looking at stereotyping; I’d rather be intoxicated on my back after a good night on the tiles instead of strangling my eldest daughter because of some crazy concept of honour. :0P[/p][/quote]Well the irony is that whilst you'd be on your back, your daughter probably would be as well...before you know it up the duff, leaving school early, and be nicely accommodated with a council house whilst the tax payer pays for her milk tokens and wkds on a friday and saturday night so she can repeat the process. And these young white girls arnt up for it? You think britain has the highest rate of pregnancies in modern europe because they like playing hopscotch with a hint of ludo? Thats the reality chum...day in day out. As far as the Ahmed case goes..without giving too much away, the parents were never charged initially. The dead daughters sister (who was busy getting drunk and having a good time when her sister was allegedly murdered)-drinking cider underage with her white friends (reference daily mail today) set up an aggravated robbery at her parents home, only came forward once she was charged with this robbery and was given an incentive if she came forward with new information. Shes about as unsavoury a character as half the drunken clowns that feature in this publication..you'd do well to seperate the wheat from the chaff.[/p][/quote]"The clan/caste system originated in india (third world?)." Maybe 2nd World if I'm being generous. Then again I looked up India on the BBC website and it said only 46.9% of households have lavatories while 49.8% defecate in the open. So probably 3rd World. It is common for some cultures to sum up white people as promiscuous drunks. This suits their way of looking at the world. Which is narrow and naive. These choose these views because it fits their own way of living, bound by outdated tradition, out of touch with the modern world, in desperate need of reform but unable to do so because of a bullying patriarchal hierarchy in enclosed communities. I'd rather be drunk than oppressed. ToffeeGuy
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10:46pm Thu 24 May 12

Tell-it-how-it-is says...

Toilets in India? Amazing fact..that has diddly squat to do with whats being discussed here!

Have your beer, get rat faced
, sleep with someone-man or woman, it doesnt matter its all acceptable nowadays..get old and drop dead on your tod when you get old. If i was to live in a culture like that, id be getting getting drunk everynight as well to make myself feel better.

Father Dougal would more likely put up a more logical arguement than you!!!
Toilets in India? Amazing fact..that has diddly squat to do with whats being discussed here! Have your beer, get rat faced , sleep with someone-man or woman, it doesnt matter its all acceptable nowadays..get old and drop dead on your tod when you get old. If i was to live in a culture like that, id be getting getting drunk everynight as well to make myself feel better. Father Dougal would more likely put up a more logical arguement than you!!! Tell-it-how-it-is
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10:58pm Thu 24 May 12

ToffeeGuy says...

Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
Toilets in India? Amazing fact..that has diddly squat to do with whats being discussed here!

Have your beer, get rat faced
, sleep with someone-man or woman, it doesnt matter its all acceptable nowadays..get old and drop dead on your tod when you get old. If i was to live in a culture like that, id be getting getting drunk everynight as well to make myself feel better.

Father Dougal would more likely put up a more logical arguement than you!!!
Irony is, if I had to marry my cousin who I had never met or couldn't speak to a woman who wasn't a relative, I would need to get drunk but wouldn't be able to.

Chill out man. I sense a lot of repressed anger.
[quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: Toilets in India? Amazing fact..that has diddly squat to do with whats being discussed here! Have your beer, get rat faced , sleep with someone-man or woman, it doesnt matter its all acceptable nowadays..get old and drop dead on your tod when you get old. If i was to live in a culture like that, id be getting getting drunk everynight as well to make myself feel better. Father Dougal would more likely put up a more logical arguement than you!!![/p][/quote]Irony is, if I had to marry my cousin who I had never met or couldn't speak to a woman who wasn't a relative, I would need to get drunk but wouldn't be able to. Chill out man. I sense a lot of repressed anger. ToffeeGuy
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11:07pm Thu 24 May 12

Graham Hartley says...

jack daniels wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
jack daniels wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
ToffeeGuy wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
ToffeeGuy wrote: "....it is not a problem that is exclusively confined to the South Asian community.” This excuse is always trotted out and is used to deflect underlining problems within a culture. Let's look at the percentages then. I don't agreed with Mr Stephenson on a lot of things but on this he is 100% right. And it is up to the political parties to sort it out. Perhaps the Pendle task force can also investigate the Biraderi system of clan loyalty and it's influence on local elections. It would be interesting to see how many voters are from the Jats and Bains clans from the Mirpur region of Kashmir and if the Councillors are as well.
The majority of your post is targeted drivel. There should be reforms in the process of voting that try to eliminate any form of fraud..by looking at weaknesses in the process, not targeting a minority of the community then further trying to break down the caste system to establish who the cheats are. We already have enough tax payers money being wasted as it is, the last thing we need in these times of austerity is nonsensical suggestions such as yours.
Who is a minority? In many wards this issue is a majority issue. This isn't targeting a community which is a minority any more and can hid behind community secrecy and a clan system transplanted from a mainly rural 3rd world country. More and more as a minority becomes a majority these issues will be shown up even more. If we want to protect the rule of law and our 1st world democracy it has to be highlighted and dealt with.
The clan/caste system originated in india (third world?) for the purposes of this article. You'd do well to have a gander at there gdp (gross domestic product) and comparing it to the Uks which in comparison is like a white person intoxicated at the weekend..flat on its backside with no hope :)
If we are looking at stereotyping; I’d rather be intoxicated on my back after a good night on the tiles instead of strangling my eldest daughter because of some crazy concept of honour.

:0P
Well the irony is that whilst you'd be on your back, your daughter probably would be as well...before you know it up the duff, leaving school early, and be nicely accommodated with a council house whilst the tax payer pays for her milk tokens and wkds on a friday and saturday night so she can repeat the process. And these young white girls arnt up for it? You think britain has the highest rate of pregnancies in modern europe because they like playing hopscotch with a hint of ludo? Thats the reality chum...day in day out. As far as the Ahmed case goes..without giving too much away, the parents were never charged initially. The dead daughters sister (who was busy getting drunk and having a good time when her sister was allegedly murdered)-drinking cider underage with her white friends (reference daily mail today) set up an aggravated robbery at her parents home, only came forward once she was charged with this robbery and was given an incentive if she came forward with new information. Shes about as unsavoury a character as half the drunken clowns that feature in this publication..you'd do well to seperate the wheat from the chaff.
That's strange because I thought the daughter was with the family when it happened. I aplomb heard that they had decided her fate too. As for facts and figures. Asians in prison as a percentage compared to the U.K. Population is always a good one.

Daughters. How many have been whisked off to the Asian sub continent to take part in an arranged marriage; one that that is not consented and they refuse to hand back their passports when they are abroad. Selling their daughters to life of rape and slavery.... It makes me sick.
Emotion without evidence cannot accelerate the process of argument. Rather, it is evidence without emotion which drives argument, and reason rules. One may be anguished, surprised, upset, disappointed, pleased, angered, worried, overjoyed, fearful, put-upon, enraptured, sickened, ...that one's relative has or has not chosen to behave in any particular manner but such positions are without argument.
[quote][p][bold]jack daniels[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jack daniels[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ToffeeGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ToffeeGuy[/bold] wrote: "....it is not a problem that is exclusively confined to the South Asian community.” This excuse is always trotted out and is used to deflect underlining problems within a culture. Let's look at the percentages then. I don't agreed with Mr Stephenson on a lot of things but on this he is 100% right. And it is up to the political parties to sort it out. Perhaps the Pendle task force can also investigate the Biraderi system of clan loyalty and it's influence on local elections. It would be interesting to see how many voters are from the Jats and Bains clans from the Mirpur region of Kashmir and if the Councillors are as well.[/p][/quote]The majority of your post is targeted drivel. There should be reforms in the process of voting that try to eliminate any form of fraud..by looking at weaknesses in the process, not targeting a minority of the community then further trying to break down the caste system to establish who the cheats are. We already have enough tax payers money being wasted as it is, the last thing we need in these times of austerity is nonsensical suggestions such as yours.[/p][/quote]Who is a minority? In many wards this issue is a majority issue. This isn't targeting a community which is a minority any more and can hid behind community secrecy and a clan system transplanted from a mainly rural 3rd world country. More and more as a minority becomes a majority these issues will be shown up even more. If we want to protect the rule of law and our 1st world democracy it has to be highlighted and dealt with.[/p][/quote]The clan/caste system originated in india (third world?) for the purposes of this article. You'd do well to have a gander at there gdp (gross domestic product) and comparing it to the Uks which in comparison is like a white person intoxicated at the weekend..flat on its backside with no hope :)[/p][/quote]If we are looking at stereotyping; I’d rather be intoxicated on my back after a good night on the tiles instead of strangling my eldest daughter because of some crazy concept of honour. :0P[/p][/quote]Well the irony is that whilst you'd be on your back, your daughter probably would be as well...before you know it up the duff, leaving school early, and be nicely accommodated with a council house whilst the tax payer pays for her milk tokens and wkds on a friday and saturday night so she can repeat the process. And these young white girls arnt up for it? You think britain has the highest rate of pregnancies in modern europe because they like playing hopscotch with a hint of ludo? Thats the reality chum...day in day out. As far as the Ahmed case goes..without giving too much away, the parents were never charged initially. The dead daughters sister (who was busy getting drunk and having a good time when her sister was allegedly murdered)-drinking cider underage with her white friends (reference daily mail today) set up an aggravated robbery at her parents home, only came forward once she was charged with this robbery and was given an incentive if she came forward with new information. Shes about as unsavoury a character as half the drunken clowns that feature in this publication..you'd do well to seperate the wheat from the chaff.[/p][/quote]That's strange because I thought the daughter was with the family when it happened. I aplomb heard that they had decided her fate too. As for facts and figures. Asians in prison as a percentage compared to the U.K. Population is always a good one. Daughters. How many have been whisked off to the Asian sub continent to take part in an arranged marriage; one that that is not consented and they refuse to hand back their passports when they are abroad. Selling their daughters to life of rape and slavery.... It makes me sick.[/p][/quote]Emotion without evidence cannot accelerate the process of argument. Rather, it is evidence without emotion which drives argument, and reason rules. One may be anguished, surprised, upset, disappointed, pleased, angered, worried, overjoyed, fearful, put-upon, enraptured, sickened, ...that one's relative has or has not chosen to behave in any particular manner but such positions are without argument. Graham Hartley
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11:23pm Thu 24 May 12

jack daniels says...

Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
Wow, you'd make an excellent detective..you could just make th witness statements up and then under cross examination tell the defence what you'd 'heard'. Asians in prisons as a percentage? What facts and figures have you presented? Stuff you've heard in the playground? The problem with people like yourself is a sheer lack of knowledge and an abundance of ignorance and arrogance. So much so that you come across as a first class buffon.

Selling daughters to a life of rape and slavery? Good god man-you are out of touch. Again no facts, just stuff you've heard.

I pity people like you..you people dont hold anything in life dear or sacred.

From a young age your past time is to lose control of your senses, you sleep about that much that by the time you're in your 20s god knows what kind of germs you've caught and passed on. Infact everyones slept with everyone!!!

You dont give a toss about your parents and just pack them off into a home so you don have to do anything for them or bare any responsibility.

This isnt what ive heard third hand, its what i see everyday. Its what i read everyday.

You feel sick over fiction, i pity you with an abundance of facts.
What statistics have you produced to back up your slander? You seem to be exceptionally narrow minded and blinkered about the truth.

Anyway, I'd rather have a social drink than be oppressed by a religion. Did your daddy take you mosque at early age? Did you have a choice? Did your wife have a choice about getting shacked up with you? How does it feel to live a life controlled by others? Your fear and obedience are your shackles and your weakness
[quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: Wow, you'd make an excellent detective..you could just make th witness statements up and then under cross examination tell the defence what you'd 'heard'. Asians in prisons as a percentage? What facts and figures have you presented? Stuff you've heard in the playground? The problem with people like yourself is a sheer lack of knowledge and an abundance of ignorance and arrogance. So much so that you come across as a first class buffon. Selling daughters to a life of rape and slavery? Good god man-you are out of touch. Again no facts, just stuff you've heard. I pity people like you..you people dont hold anything in life dear or sacred. From a young age your past time is to lose control of your senses, you sleep about that much that by the time you're in your 20s god knows what kind of germs you've caught and passed on. Infact everyones slept with everyone!!! You dont give a toss about your parents and just pack them off into a home so you don have to do anything for them or bare any responsibility. This isnt what ive heard third hand, its what i see everyday. Its what i read everyday. You feel sick over fiction, i pity you with an abundance of facts.[/p][/quote]What statistics have you produced to back up your slander? You seem to be exceptionally narrow minded and blinkered about the truth. Anyway, I'd rather have a social drink than be oppressed by a religion. Did your daddy take you mosque at early age? Did you have a choice? Did your wife have a choice about getting shacked up with you? How does it feel to live a life controlled by others? Your fear and obedience are your shackles and your weakness jack daniels
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11:28pm Thu 24 May 12

jack daniels says...

Graham Hartley wrote:
jack daniels wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
jack daniels wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
ToffeeGuy wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
ToffeeGuy wrote: "....it is not a problem that is exclusively confined to the South Asian community.” This excuse is always trotted out and is used to deflect underlining problems within a culture. Let's look at the percentages then. I don't agreed with Mr Stephenson on a lot of things but on this he is 100% right. And it is up to the political parties to sort it out. Perhaps the Pendle task force can also investigate the Biraderi system of clan loyalty and it's influence on local elections. It would be interesting to see how many voters are from the Jats and Bains clans from the Mirpur region of Kashmir and if the Councillors are as well.
The majority of your post is targeted drivel. There should be reforms in the process of voting that try to eliminate any form of fraud..by looking at weaknesses in the process, not targeting a minority of the community then further trying to break down the caste system to establish who the cheats are. We already have enough tax payers money being wasted as it is, the last thing we need in these times of austerity is nonsensical suggestions such as yours.
Who is a minority? In many wards this issue is a majority issue. This isn't targeting a community which is a minority any more and can hid behind community secrecy and a clan system transplanted from a mainly rural 3rd world country. More and more as a minority becomes a majority these issues will be shown up even more. If we want to protect the rule of law and our 1st world democracy it has to be highlighted and dealt with.
The clan/caste system originated in india (third world?) for the purposes of this article. You'd do well to have a gander at there gdp (gross domestic product) and comparing it to the Uks which in comparison is like a white person intoxicated at the weekend..flat on its backside with no hope :)
If we are looking at stereotyping; I’d rather be intoxicated on my back after a good night on the tiles instead of strangling my eldest daughter because of some crazy concept of honour.

:0P
Well the irony is that whilst you'd be on your back, your daughter probably would be as well...before you know it up the duff, leaving school early, and be nicely accommodated with a council house whilst the tax payer pays for her milk tokens and wkds on a friday and saturday night so she can repeat the process. And these young white girls arnt up for it? You think britain has the highest rate of pregnancies in modern europe because they like playing hopscotch with a hint of ludo? Thats the reality chum...day in day out. As far as the Ahmed case goes..without giving too much away, the parents were never charged initially. The dead daughters sister (who was busy getting drunk and having a good time when her sister was allegedly murdered)-drinking cider underage with her white friends (reference daily mail today) set up an aggravated robbery at her parents home, only came forward once she was charged with this robbery and was given an incentive if she came forward with new information. Shes about as unsavoury a character as half the drunken clowns that feature in this publication..you'd do well to seperate the wheat from the chaff.
That's strange because I thought the daughter was with the family when it happened. I aplomb heard that they had decided her fate too. As for facts and figures. Asians in prison as a percentage compared to the U.K. Population is always a good one.

Daughters. How many have been whisked off to the Asian sub continent to take part in an arranged marriage; one that that is not consented and they refuse to hand back their passports when they are abroad. Selling their daughters to life of rape and slavery.... It makes me sick.
Emotion without evidence cannot accelerate the process of argument. Rather, it is evidence without emotion which drives argument, and reason rules. One may be anguished, surprised, upset, disappointed, pleased, angered, worried, overjoyed, fearful, put-upon, enraptured, sickened, ...that one's relative has or has not chosen to behave in any particular manner but such positions are without argument.
It's a bit tricky for me to provide proof at this time of night on an android phone. I'll come back tomorrow and provide all the sickening evidence there is.
[quote][p][bold]Graham Hartley[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jack daniels[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jack daniels[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ToffeeGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]ToffeeGuy[/bold] wrote: "....it is not a problem that is exclusively confined to the South Asian community.” This excuse is always trotted out and is used to deflect underlining problems within a culture. Let's look at the percentages then. I don't agreed with Mr Stephenson on a lot of things but on this he is 100% right. And it is up to the political parties to sort it out. Perhaps the Pendle task force can also investigate the Biraderi system of clan loyalty and it's influence on local elections. It would be interesting to see how many voters are from the Jats and Bains clans from the Mirpur region of Kashmir and if the Councillors are as well.[/p][/quote]The majority of your post is targeted drivel. There should be reforms in the process of voting that try to eliminate any form of fraud..by looking at weaknesses in the process, not targeting a minority of the community then further trying to break down the caste system to establish who the cheats are. We already have enough tax payers money being wasted as it is, the last thing we need in these times of austerity is nonsensical suggestions such as yours.[/p][/quote]Who is a minority? In many wards this issue is a majority issue. This isn't targeting a community which is a minority any more and can hid behind community secrecy and a clan system transplanted from a mainly rural 3rd world country. More and more as a minority becomes a majority these issues will be shown up even more. If we want to protect the rule of law and our 1st world democracy it has to be highlighted and dealt with.[/p][/quote]The clan/caste system originated in india (third world?) for the purposes of this article. You'd do well to have a gander at there gdp (gross domestic product) and comparing it to the Uks which in comparison is like a white person intoxicated at the weekend..flat on its backside with no hope :)[/p][/quote]If we are looking at stereotyping; I’d rather be intoxicated on my back after a good night on the tiles instead of strangling my eldest daughter because of some crazy concept of honour. :0P[/p][/quote]Well the irony is that whilst you'd be on your back, your daughter probably would be as well...before you know it up the duff, leaving school early, and be nicely accommodated with a council house whilst the tax payer pays for her milk tokens and wkds on a friday and saturday night so she can repeat the process. And these young white girls arnt up for it? You think britain has the highest rate of pregnancies in modern europe because they like playing hopscotch with a hint of ludo? Thats the reality chum...day in day out. As far as the Ahmed case goes..without giving too much away, the parents were never charged initially. The dead daughters sister (who was busy getting drunk and having a good time when her sister was allegedly murdered)-drinking cider underage with her white friends (reference daily mail today) set up an aggravated robbery at her parents home, only came forward once she was charged with this robbery and was given an incentive if she came forward with new information. Shes about as unsavoury a character as half the drunken clowns that feature in this publication..you'd do well to seperate the wheat from the chaff.[/p][/quote]That's strange because I thought the daughter was with the family when it happened. I aplomb heard that they had decided her fate too. As for facts and figures. Asians in prison as a percentage compared to the U.K. Population is always a good one. Daughters. How many have been whisked off to the Asian sub continent to take part in an arranged marriage; one that that is not consented and they refuse to hand back their passports when they are abroad. Selling their daughters to life of rape and slavery.... It makes me sick.[/p][/quote]Emotion without evidence cannot accelerate the process of argument. Rather, it is evidence without emotion which drives argument, and reason rules. One may be anguished, surprised, upset, disappointed, pleased, angered, worried, overjoyed, fearful, put-upon, enraptured, sickened, ...that one's relative has or has not chosen to behave in any particular manner but such positions are without argument.[/p][/quote]It's a bit tricky for me to provide proof at this time of night on an android phone. I'll come back tomorrow and provide all the sickening evidence there is. jack daniels
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11:35pm Thu 24 May 12

ToffeeGuy says...

ToffeeGuy wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
Toilets in India? Amazing fact..that has diddly squat to do with whats being discussed here!

Have your beer, get rat faced
, sleep with someone-man or woman, it doesnt matter its all acceptable nowadays..get old and drop dead on your tod when you get old. If i was to live in a culture like that, id be getting getting drunk everynight as well to make myself feel better.

Father Dougal would more likely put up a more logical arguement than you!!!
Irony is, if I had to marry my cousin who I had never met or couldn't speak to a woman who wasn't a relative, I would need to get drunk but wouldn't be able to.

Chill out man. I sense a lot of repressed anger.
"Have your beer, get rat faced , sleep with someone-man or woman, it doesnt matter its all acceptable nowadays..get old and drop dead on your tod when you get old."

Unless you live in another country then you do live in this culture.

It is strange that a generation or two ago many people from other cultures came to the UK for a better life and more opportunities. Yet they chose to bring with them the culture which has held their 'mother' country back in the first place and was partly the reason for them leaving. i.e. a vicious circle.

The UK is a post industrial country of over 60m people. For better or for worse (but mostly for better) since the industrial revolution we have developed sophisticated social welfare and economic systems to cope with the changes to the country which this brought.

People moved around the country, needed loans to develop their business / lives so banks were formed instead of relying family for money. This gave people greater independence and enhanced their lives.

Family members became sick so we set up hospitals and eventually the NHS to help them. And yes, help them better than family could.

The close family structures of some cultures can work, but for most developed nations they have been replaced by a broader social care run by the government on behalf of all of us.

In the West, close knit families which some people find limiting and suffocating have been replaced by individuality and freedom. This does have some 'fallout' in terms, of say, teenage pregnancy and drunkenness. But, but, for the vast majority of people it has made their lives more fulfilled and, yes, happier.
[quote][p][bold]ToffeeGuy[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: Toilets in India? Amazing fact..that has diddly squat to do with whats being discussed here! Have your beer, get rat faced , sleep with someone-man or woman, it doesnt matter its all acceptable nowadays..get old and drop dead on your tod when you get old. If i was to live in a culture like that, id be getting getting drunk everynight as well to make myself feel better. Father Dougal would more likely put up a more logical arguement than you!!![/p][/quote]Irony is, if I had to marry my cousin who I had never met or couldn't speak to a woman who wasn't a relative, I would need to get drunk but wouldn't be able to. Chill out man. I sense a lot of repressed anger.[/p][/quote]"Have your beer, get rat faced , sleep with someone-man or woman, it doesnt matter its all acceptable nowadays..get old and drop dead on your tod when you get old." Unless you live in another country then you do live in this culture. It is strange that a generation or two ago many people from other cultures came to the UK for a better life and more opportunities. Yet they chose to bring with them the culture which has held their 'mother' country back in the first place and was partly the reason for them leaving. i.e. a vicious circle. The UK is a post industrial country of over 60m people. For better or for worse (but mostly for better) since the industrial revolution we have developed sophisticated social welfare and economic systems to cope with the changes to the country which this brought. People moved around the country, needed loans to develop their business / lives so banks were formed instead of relying family for money. This gave people greater independence and enhanced their lives. Family members became sick so we set up hospitals and eventually the NHS to help them. And yes, help them better than family could. The close family structures of some cultures can work, but for most developed nations they have been replaced by a broader social care run by the government on behalf of all of us. In the West, close knit families which some people find limiting and suffocating have been replaced by individuality and freedom. This does have some 'fallout' in terms, of say, teenage pregnancy and drunkenness. But, but, for the vast majority of people it has made their lives more fulfilled and, yes, happier. ToffeeGuy
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4:53am Fri 25 May 12

Tell-it-how-it-is says...

My views are based on first hand observations...not some pap third hand. Slander-the articles are in the telegraph before anywhere else..drunks abusing people of asian heritage and otherwise (2stories yesterday). My wife? Going to mosque? All based on assumption...where as me assuming you getting rat faced is more an educated guess based on common trends! Im obviously being controlled hence mydirection to join and post here👍my fears? There arnt any chum..and more importantly i dont spend portions of my life when my senses dessert me as i happily leave a sober life. Its friday night..i wonder what the majority of 13 to 30 (keep it at 30 😉) year olds will be getting upto..i wonder what the police will be dealing with tonight or the hospitals??? Have a drive about through your local town..first hand experience for all to see😃😃😃😃
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My views are based on first hand observations...not some pap third hand. Slander-the articles are in the telegraph before anywhere else..drunks abusing people of asian heritage and otherwise (2stories yesterday). My wife? Going to mosque? All based on assumption...where as me assuming you getting rat faced is more an educated guess based on common trends! Im obviously being controlled hence mydirection to join and post here👍my fears? There arnt any chum..and more importantly i dont spend portions of my life when my senses dessert me as i happily leave a sober life. Its friday night..i wonder what the majority of 13 to 30 (keep it at 30 😉) year olds will be getting upto..i wonder what the police will be dealing with tonight or the hospitals??? Have a drive about through your local town..first hand experience for all to see😃😃😃😃 😃😃😃😃 Tell-it-how-it-is
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8:43am Fri 25 May 12

jack daniels says...

Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
My views are based on first hand observations...not some pap third hand. Slander-the articles are in the telegraph before anywhere else..drunks abusing people of asian heritage and otherwise (2stories yesterday). My wife? Going to mosque? All based on assumption...where as me assuming you getting rat faced is more an educated guess based on common trends! Im obviously being controlled hence mydirection to join and post here👍my fears? There arnt any chum..and more importantly i dont spend portions of my life when my senses dessert me as i happily leave a sober life. Its friday night..i wonder what the majority of 13 to 30 (keep it at 30 😉) year olds will be getting upto..i wonder what the police will be dealing with tonight or the hospitals??? Have a drive about through your local town..first hand experience for all to see😃😃😃😃
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Your first hand observation is only as good as my first hand observation, as I live and work in multicultural situation. Therefore you need facts to back your observations up.

Do you remember the story about the scumbags in the expensive cars that attacked the pregnant woman in the Blackburn Vue? Where they drunk?
Was that a Friday night?
Does this make them worse than the white drunks you are criticising? I think it does because they have no excuse for their evil acts.

Most cultures in the world (including some muslim ones) use a drug for recreational or religious purposes. Even people within the Asian community drink and smoke pot or tobacco.

As for the police – maybe they are rounding up groomers or drug dealers or trying to catch the fuel thieves from the front cover of Wednesdays paper?
[quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: My views are based on first hand observations...not some pap third hand. Slander-the articles are in the telegraph before anywhere else..drunks abusing people of asian heritage and otherwise (2stories yesterday). My wife? Going to mosque? All based on assumption...where as me assuming you getting rat faced is more an educated guess based on common trends! Im obviously being controlled hence mydirection to join and post here👍my fears? There arnt any chum..and more importantly i dont spend portions of my life when my senses dessert me as i happily leave a sober life. Its friday night..i wonder what the majority of 13 to 30 (keep it at 30 😉) year olds will be getting upto..i wonder what the police will be dealing with tonight or the hospitals??? Have a drive about through your local town..first hand experience for all to see😃😃😃😃 ���😃😃 😃����[/p][/quote]Your first hand observation is only as good as my first hand observation, as I live and work in multicultural situation. Therefore you need facts to back your observations up. Do you remember the story about the scumbags in the expensive cars that attacked the pregnant woman in the Blackburn Vue? Where they drunk? Was that a Friday night? Does this make them worse than the white drunks you are criticising? I think it does because they have no excuse for their evil acts. Most cultures in the world (including some muslim ones) use a drug for recreational or religious purposes. Even people within the Asian community drink and smoke pot or tobacco. As for the police – maybe they are rounding up groomers or drug dealers or trying to catch the fuel thieves from the front cover of Wednesdays paper? jack daniels
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9:40am Fri 25 May 12

Tell-it-how-it-is says...

Iranian and Kurdish? Marrying first cousins? Muslims?

What the heck are you on about? This isnt a religious forum and we arnt discussing international trends..we're on about whats going on at our door steps!!

If you're that concerned with iran and the kurds, get your backside there and take action, infact dont stop there, get to iraq as well and afghanistan im sure they'd welcome you with open arms (or more likely remove your head from your torso).

I suggest you keep the debate local😄
Iranian and Kurdish? Marrying first cousins? Muslims? What the heck are you on about? This isnt a religious forum and we arnt discussing international trends..we're on about whats going on at our door steps!! If you're that concerned with iran and the kurds, get your backside there and take action, infact dont stop there, get to iraq as well and afghanistan im sure they'd welcome you with open arms (or more likely remove your head from your torso). I suggest you keep the debate local😄 Tell-it-how-it-is
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10:38am Fri 25 May 12

did you smash it? says...

Whay has my post been removed? It wasn't racist in any way shape or form, and certainly no worse than some of the gubbins posted above.
LT you are a joke
Whay has my post been removed? It wasn't racist in any way shape or form, and certainly no worse than some of the gubbins posted above. LT you are a joke did you smash it?
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10:45am Fri 25 May 12

did you smash it? says...

Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
berniep wrote:
Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.
The asian women in pendle probably dont feel save to go out as they feel they might get abused by some drunk idiots and get told to get back to there own country, they might get mugged by some alcoholic drug abusers..and get told to go back to there own country and to top it all off they may get into a road rage incident with some of pendles finest, f1 inspired, taxi drivers. These asians are a nuisance arnt they???? Causing bother with there non intergrating ways...id like to see more of them semi naked on a friday night..completely legless without a clue of what they're doing and with whom. Completely bladdered, yes please-rat faced!!! Id like to see them also committ more burglaries and i want equal representation in the heroin community with these asian non intergraters!!! Staying at home pffft!!!!
This is the most ridiculous post in the entire thread.
So the white people in England like to have a drink at the weekend - we have done since time immemorial and will continue to do so, I suggest you get used to this and respect our culture, as I am sure we would have to do if we moved to Pakistan or similar.
Muslim women are afraid to venture out at night in case they get abused or mugged? Really? Or are they not allowed by hubby?
You have completely undermined your argument by as usual deflecting the blame at the white community and not accepting responsibility for anything at all.
There IS a problem with opression and proxy voting in the asian community and has been for a long time, the question is will anyone from the 'community' have the stones to admit this? I doubt it because the majority of the councillors or community leaders have been 'elected' into place.
[quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]berniep[/bold] wrote: Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.[/p][/quote]The asian women in pendle probably dont feel save to go out as they feel they might get abused by some drunk idiots and get told to get back to there own country, they might get mugged by some alcoholic drug abusers..and get told to go back to there own country and to top it all off they may get into a road rage incident with some of pendles finest, f1 inspired, taxi drivers. These asians are a nuisance arnt they???? Causing bother with there non intergrating ways...id like to see more of them semi naked on a friday night..completely legless without a clue of what they're doing and with whom. Completely bladdered, yes please-rat faced!!! Id like to see them also committ more burglaries and i want equal representation in the heroin community with these asian non intergraters!!! Staying at home pffft!!!![/p][/quote]This is the most ridiculous post in the entire thread. So the white people in England like to have a drink at the weekend - we have done since time immemorial and will continue to do so, I suggest you get used to this and respect our culture, as I am sure we would have to do if we moved to Pakistan or similar. Muslim women are afraid to venture out at night in case they get abused or mugged? Really? Or are they not allowed by hubby? You have completely undermined your argument by as usual deflecting the blame at the white community and not accepting responsibility for anything at all. There IS a problem with opression and proxy voting in the asian community and has been for a long time, the question is will anyone from the 'community' have the stones to admit this? I doubt it because the majority of the councillors or community leaders have been 'elected' into place. did you smash it?
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11:46am Fri 25 May 12

Tell-it-how-it-is says...

did you smash it? wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
berniep wrote:
Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.
The asian women in pendle probably dont feel save to go out as they feel they might get abused by some drunk idiots and get told to get back to there own country, they might get mugged by some alcoholic drug abusers..and get told to go back to there own country and to top it all off they may get into a road rage incident with some of pendles finest, f1 inspired, taxi drivers. These asians are a nuisance arnt they???? Causing bother with there non intergrating ways...id like to see more of them semi naked on a friday night..completely legless without a clue of what they're doing and with whom. Completely bladdered, yes please-rat faced!!! Id like to see them also committ more burglaries and i want equal representation in the heroin community with these asian non intergraters!!! Staying at home pffft!!!!
This is the most ridiculous post in the entire thread.
So the white people in England like to have a drink at the weekend - we have done since time immemorial and will continue to do so, I suggest you get used to this and respect our culture, as I am sure we would have to do if we moved to Pakistan or similar.
Muslim women are afraid to venture out at night in case they get abused or mugged? Really? Or are they not allowed by hubby?
You have completely undermined your argument by as usual deflecting the blame at the white community and not accepting responsibility for anything at all.
There IS a problem with opression and proxy voting in the asian community and has been for a long time, the question is will anyone from the 'community' have the stones to admit this? I doubt it because the majority of the councillors or community leaders have been 'elected' into place.
I dont have to respect the drinking culture so take a running jump if you think im going to fall in line. If that upsets you then go and drown yourself in a drink 👍

We're obviously scraping the barrell here with the amount of intelligence on display..the above post you quoted...sarcasm???
[quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]berniep[/bold] wrote: Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.[/p][/quote]The asian women in pendle probably dont feel save to go out as they feel they might get abused by some drunk idiots and get told to get back to there own country, they might get mugged by some alcoholic drug abusers..and get told to go back to there own country and to top it all off they may get into a road rage incident with some of pendles finest, f1 inspired, taxi drivers. These asians are a nuisance arnt they???? Causing bother with there non intergrating ways...id like to see more of them semi naked on a friday night..completely legless without a clue of what they're doing and with whom. Completely bladdered, yes please-rat faced!!! Id like to see them also committ more burglaries and i want equal representation in the heroin community with these asian non intergraters!!! Staying at home pffft!!!![/p][/quote]This is the most ridiculous post in the entire thread. So the white people in England like to have a drink at the weekend - we have done since time immemorial and will continue to do so, I suggest you get used to this and respect our culture, as I am sure we would have to do if we moved to Pakistan or similar. Muslim women are afraid to venture out at night in case they get abused or mugged? Really? Or are they not allowed by hubby? You have completely undermined your argument by as usual deflecting the blame at the white community and not accepting responsibility for anything at all. There IS a problem with opression and proxy voting in the asian community and has been for a long time, the question is will anyone from the 'community' have the stones to admit this? I doubt it because the majority of the councillors or community leaders have been 'elected' into place.[/p][/quote]I dont have to respect the drinking culture so take a running jump if you think im going to fall in line. If that upsets you then go and drown yourself in a drink 👍 We're obviously scraping the barrell here with the amount of intelligence on display..the above post you quoted...sarcasm??? Tell-it-how-it-is
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11:50am Fri 25 May 12

Tell-it-how-it-is says...

did you smash it? wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
berniep wrote:
Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.
The asian women in pendle probably dont feel save to go out as they feel they might get abused by some drunk idiots and get told to get back to there own country, they might get mugged by some alcoholic drug abusers..and get told to go back to there own country and to top it all off they may get into a road rage incident with some of pendles finest, f1 inspired, taxi drivers. These asians are a nuisance arnt they???? Causing bother with there non intergrating ways...id like to see more of them semi naked on a friday night..completely legless without a clue of what they're doing and with whom. Completely bladdered, yes please-rat faced!!! Id like to see them also committ more burglaries and i want equal representation in the heroin community with these asian non intergraters!!! Staying at home pffft!!!!
This is the most ridiculous post in the entire thread.
So the white people in England like to have a drink at the weekend - we have done since time immemorial and will continue to do so, I suggest you get used to this and respect our culture, as I am sure we would have to do if we moved to Pakistan or similar.
Muslim women are afraid to venture out at night in case they get abused or mugged? Really? Or are they not allowed by hubby?
You have completely undermined your argument by as usual deflecting the blame at the white community and not accepting responsibility for anything at all.
There IS a problem with opression and proxy voting in the asian community and has been for a long time, the question is will anyone from the 'community' have the stones to admit this? I doubt it because the majority of the councillors or community leaders have been 'elected' into place.
Im Off for a nice cold carling with some white chicks now😉..got to get my burqa on first😄..i'll let you lot debate the voting complexities amongst asian women!
[quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]berniep[/bold] wrote: Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.[/p][/quote]The asian women in pendle probably dont feel save to go out as they feel they might get abused by some drunk idiots and get told to get back to there own country, they might get mugged by some alcoholic drug abusers..and get told to go back to there own country and to top it all off they may get into a road rage incident with some of pendles finest, f1 inspired, taxi drivers. These asians are a nuisance arnt they???? Causing bother with there non intergrating ways...id like to see more of them semi naked on a friday night..completely legless without a clue of what they're doing and with whom. Completely bladdered, yes please-rat faced!!! Id like to see them also committ more burglaries and i want equal representation in the heroin community with these asian non intergraters!!! Staying at home pffft!!!![/p][/quote]This is the most ridiculous post in the entire thread. So the white people in England like to have a drink at the weekend - we have done since time immemorial and will continue to do so, I suggest you get used to this and respect our culture, as I am sure we would have to do if we moved to Pakistan or similar. Muslim women are afraid to venture out at night in case they get abused or mugged? Really? Or are they not allowed by hubby? You have completely undermined your argument by as usual deflecting the blame at the white community and not accepting responsibility for anything at all. There IS a problem with opression and proxy voting in the asian community and has been for a long time, the question is will anyone from the 'community' have the stones to admit this? I doubt it because the majority of the councillors or community leaders have been 'elected' into place.[/p][/quote]Im Off for a nice cold carling with some white chicks now😉..got to get my burqa on first😄..i'll let you lot debate the voting complexities amongst asian women! Tell-it-how-it-is
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12:47pm Fri 25 May 12

jack daniels says...

Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
Iranian and Kurdish? Marrying first cousins? Muslims? What the heck are you on about? This isnt a religious forum and we arnt discussing international trends..we're on about whats going on at our door steps!! If you're that concerned with iran and the kurds, get your backside there and take action, infact dont stop there, get to iraq as well and afghanistan im sure they'd welcome you with open arms (or more likely remove your head from your torso). I suggest you keep the debate local😄
also known as - I got my a$$ whipped by facts and figures and decided to get the LT to delete the comment!
[quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: Iranian and Kurdish? Marrying first cousins? Muslims? What the heck are you on about? This isnt a religious forum and we arnt discussing international trends..we're on about whats going on at our door steps!! If you're that concerned with iran and the kurds, get your backside there and take action, infact dont stop there, get to iraq as well and afghanistan im sure they'd welcome you with open arms (or more likely remove your head from your torso). I suggest you keep the debate local😄[/p][/quote]also known as - I got my a$$ whipped by facts and figures and decided to get the LT to delete the comment! jack daniels
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12:51pm Fri 25 May 12

jack daniels says...

Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
did you smash it? wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
berniep wrote: Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.
The asian women in pendle probably dont feel save to go out as they feel they might get abused by some drunk idiots and get told to get back to there own country, they might get mugged by some alcoholic drug abusers..and get told to go back to there own country and to top it all off they may get into a road rage incident with some of pendles finest, f1 inspired, taxi drivers. These asians are a nuisance arnt they???? Causing bother with there non intergrating ways...id like to see more of them semi naked on a friday night..completely legless without a clue of what they're doing and with whom. Completely bladdered, yes please-rat faced!!! Id like to see them also committ more burglaries and i want equal representation in the heroin community with these asian non intergraters!!! Staying at home pffft!!!!
This is the most ridiculous post in the entire thread. So the white people in England like to have a drink at the weekend - we have done since time immemorial and will continue to do so, I suggest you get used to this and respect our culture, as I am sure we would have to do if we moved to Pakistan or similar. Muslim women are afraid to venture out at night in case they get abused or mugged? Really? Or are they not allowed by hubby? You have completely undermined your argument by as usual deflecting the blame at the white community and not accepting responsibility for anything at all. There IS a problem with opression and proxy voting in the asian community and has been for a long time, the question is will anyone from the 'community' have the stones to admit this? I doubt it because the majority of the councillors or community leaders have been 'elected' into place.
I dont have to respect the drinking culture so take a running jump if you think im going to fall in line. If that upsets you then go and drown yourself in a drink 👍 We're obviously scraping the barrell here with the amount of intelligence on display..the above post you quoted...sarcasm???
seems somebody else has spotted the drivel coming from your mouth and has kicked your a$$ with logic.
[quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]berniep[/bold] wrote: Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.[/p][/quote]The asian women in pendle probably dont feel save to go out as they feel they might get abused by some drunk idiots and get told to get back to there own country, they might get mugged by some alcoholic drug abusers..and get told to go back to there own country and to top it all off they may get into a road rage incident with some of pendles finest, f1 inspired, taxi drivers. These asians are a nuisance arnt they???? Causing bother with there non intergrating ways...id like to see more of them semi naked on a friday night..completely legless without a clue of what they're doing and with whom. Completely bladdered, yes please-rat faced!!! Id like to see them also committ more burglaries and i want equal representation in the heroin community with these asian non intergraters!!! Staying at home pffft!!!![/p][/quote]This is the most ridiculous post in the entire thread. So the white people in England like to have a drink at the weekend - we have done since time immemorial and will continue to do so, I suggest you get used to this and respect our culture, as I am sure we would have to do if we moved to Pakistan or similar. Muslim women are afraid to venture out at night in case they get abused or mugged? Really? Or are they not allowed by hubby? You have completely undermined your argument by as usual deflecting the blame at the white community and not accepting responsibility for anything at all. There IS a problem with opression and proxy voting in the asian community and has been for a long time, the question is will anyone from the 'community' have the stones to admit this? I doubt it because the majority of the councillors or community leaders have been 'elected' into place.[/p][/quote]I dont have to respect the drinking culture so take a running jump if you think im going to fall in line. If that upsets you then go and drown yourself in a drink 👍 We're obviously scraping the barrell here with the amount of intelligence on display..the above post you quoted...sarcasm???[/p][/quote]seems somebody else has spotted the drivel coming from your mouth and has kicked your a$$ with logic. jack daniels
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12:56pm Fri 25 May 12

jack daniels says...

did you smash it? wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
berniep wrote: Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.
The asian women in pendle probably dont feel save to go out as they feel they might get abused by some drunk idiots and get told to get back to there own country, they might get mugged by some alcoholic drug abusers..and get told to go back to there own country and to top it all off they may get into a road rage incident with some of pendles finest, f1 inspired, taxi drivers. These asians are a nuisance arnt they???? Causing bother with there non intergrating ways...id like to see more of them semi naked on a friday night..completely legless without a clue of what they're doing and with whom. Completely bladdered, yes please-rat faced!!! Id like to see them also committ more burglaries and i want equal representation in the heroin community with these asian non intergraters!!! Staying at home pffft!!!!
This is the most ridiculous post in the entire thread. So the white people in England like to have a drink at the weekend - we have done since time immemorial and will continue to do so, I suggest you get used to this and respect our culture, as I am sure we would have to do if we moved to Pakistan or similar. Muslim women are afraid to venture out at night in case they get abused or mugged? Really? Or are they not allowed by hubby? You have completely undermined your argument by as usual deflecting the blame at the white community and not accepting responsibility for anything at all. There IS a problem with opression and proxy voting in the asian community and has been for a long time, the question is will anyone from the 'community' have the stones to admit this? I doubt it because the majority of the councillors or community leaders have been 'elected' into place.
Well said 'did you smash it?'. You can see how he wiggles and squirms when pinned down with facts. The guy must really have a problem with the country that he lives in. I can guess that you or I wouldn't live in Saudi Arabia becauseof their strict alcohol laws, but this chump clearly doesn't have the guts to comprehend this logic.

Never stop speaking your mind.
[quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]berniep[/bold] wrote: Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.[/p][/quote]The asian women in pendle probably dont feel save to go out as they feel they might get abused by some drunk idiots and get told to get back to there own country, they might get mugged by some alcoholic drug abusers..and get told to go back to there own country and to top it all off they may get into a road rage incident with some of pendles finest, f1 inspired, taxi drivers. These asians are a nuisance arnt they???? Causing bother with there non intergrating ways...id like to see more of them semi naked on a friday night..completely legless without a clue of what they're doing and with whom. Completely bladdered, yes please-rat faced!!! Id like to see them also committ more burglaries and i want equal representation in the heroin community with these asian non intergraters!!! Staying at home pffft!!!![/p][/quote]This is the most ridiculous post in the entire thread. So the white people in England like to have a drink at the weekend - we have done since time immemorial and will continue to do so, I suggest you get used to this and respect our culture, as I am sure we would have to do if we moved to Pakistan or similar. Muslim women are afraid to venture out at night in case they get abused or mugged? Really? Or are they not allowed by hubby? You have completely undermined your argument by as usual deflecting the blame at the white community and not accepting responsibility for anything at all. There IS a problem with opression and proxy voting in the asian community and has been for a long time, the question is will anyone from the 'community' have the stones to admit this? I doubt it because the majority of the councillors or community leaders have been 'elected' into place.[/p][/quote]Well said 'did you smash it?'. You can see how he wiggles and squirms when pinned down with facts. The guy must really have a problem with the country that he lives in. I can guess that you or I wouldn't live in Saudi Arabia becauseof their strict alcohol laws, but this chump clearly doesn't have the guts to comprehend this logic. Never stop speaking your mind. jack daniels
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1:23pm Fri 25 May 12

did you smash it? says...

Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
did you smash it? wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
berniep wrote:
Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.
The asian women in pendle probably dont feel save to go out as they feel they might get abused by some drunk idiots and get told to get back to there own country, they might get mugged by some alcoholic drug abusers..and get told to go back to there own country and to top it all off they may get into a road rage incident with some of pendles finest, f1 inspired, taxi drivers. These asians are a nuisance arnt they???? Causing bother with there non intergrating ways...id like to see more of them semi naked on a friday night..completely legless without a clue of what they're doing and with whom. Completely bladdered, yes please-rat faced!!! Id like to see them also committ more burglaries and i want equal representation in the heroin community with these asian non intergraters!!! Staying at home pffft!!!!
This is the most ridiculous post in the entire thread.
So the white people in England like to have a drink at the weekend - we have done since time immemorial and will continue to do so, I suggest you get used to this and respect our culture, as I am sure we would have to do if we moved to Pakistan or similar.
Muslim women are afraid to venture out at night in case they get abused or mugged? Really? Or are they not allowed by hubby?
You have completely undermined your argument by as usual deflecting the blame at the white community and not accepting responsibility for anything at all.
There IS a problem with opression and proxy voting in the asian community and has been for a long time, the question is will anyone from the 'community' have the stones to admit this? I doubt it because the majority of the councillors or community leaders have been 'elected' into place.
I dont have to respect the drinking culture so take a running jump if you think im going to fall in line. If that upsets you then go and drown yourself in a drink 👍

We're obviously scraping the barrell here with the amount of intelligence on display..the above post you quoted...sarcasm???
No you don't and that is because in THIS country we allow you to respct YOUR opinions.
.
I'm off now to opress my wife and force her to vote how I want her to
[quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]berniep[/bold] wrote: Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.[/p][/quote]The asian women in pendle probably dont feel save to go out as they feel they might get abused by some drunk idiots and get told to get back to there own country, they might get mugged by some alcoholic drug abusers..and get told to go back to there own country and to top it all off they may get into a road rage incident with some of pendles finest, f1 inspired, taxi drivers. These asians are a nuisance arnt they???? Causing bother with there non intergrating ways...id like to see more of them semi naked on a friday night..completely legless without a clue of what they're doing and with whom. Completely bladdered, yes please-rat faced!!! Id like to see them also committ more burglaries and i want equal representation in the heroin community with these asian non intergraters!!! Staying at home pffft!!!![/p][/quote]This is the most ridiculous post in the entire thread. So the white people in England like to have a drink at the weekend - we have done since time immemorial and will continue to do so, I suggest you get used to this and respect our culture, as I am sure we would have to do if we moved to Pakistan or similar. Muslim women are afraid to venture out at night in case they get abused or mugged? Really? Or are they not allowed by hubby? You have completely undermined your argument by as usual deflecting the blame at the white community and not accepting responsibility for anything at all. There IS a problem with opression and proxy voting in the asian community and has been for a long time, the question is will anyone from the 'community' have the stones to admit this? I doubt it because the majority of the councillors or community leaders have been 'elected' into place.[/p][/quote]I dont have to respect the drinking culture so take a running jump if you think im going to fall in line. If that upsets you then go and drown yourself in a drink 👍 We're obviously scraping the barrell here with the amount of intelligence on display..the above post you quoted...sarcasm???[/p][/quote]No you don't and that is because in THIS country we allow you to respct YOUR opinions. . I'm off now to opress my wife and force her to vote how I want her to did you smash it?
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2:30pm Fri 25 May 12

jack daniels says...

did you smash it? wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
did you smash it? wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
berniep wrote: Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.
The asian women in pendle probably dont feel save to go out as they feel they might get abused by some drunk idiots and get told to get back to there own country, they might get mugged by some alcoholic drug abusers..and get told to go back to there own country and to top it all off they may get into a road rage incident with some of pendles finest, f1 inspired, taxi drivers. These asians are a nuisance arnt they???? Causing bother with there non intergrating ways...id like to see more of them semi naked on a friday night..completely legless without a clue of what they're doing and with whom. Completely bladdered, yes please-rat faced!!! Id like to see them also committ more burglaries and i want equal representation in the heroin community with these asian non intergraters!!! Staying at home pffft!!!!
This is the most ridiculous post in the entire thread. So the white people in England like to have a drink at the weekend - we have done since time immemorial and will continue to do so, I suggest you get used to this and respect our culture, as I am sure we would have to do if we moved to Pakistan or similar. Muslim women are afraid to venture out at night in case they get abused or mugged? Really? Or are they not allowed by hubby? You have completely undermined your argument by as usual deflecting the blame at the white community and not accepting responsibility for anything at all. There IS a problem with opression and proxy voting in the asian community and has been for a long time, the question is will anyone from the 'community' have the stones to admit this? I doubt it because the majority of the councillors or community leaders have been 'elected' into place.
I dont have to respect the drinking culture so take a running jump if you think im going to fall in line. If that upsets you then go and drown yourself in a drink 👍 We're obviously scraping the barrell here with the amount of intelligence on display..the above post you quoted...sarcasm???
No you don't and that is because in THIS country we allow you to respct YOUR opinions. . I'm off now to opress my wife and force her to vote how I want her to
LOL
[quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]berniep[/bold] wrote: Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.[/p][/quote]The asian women in pendle probably dont feel save to go out as they feel they might get abused by some drunk idiots and get told to get back to there own country, they might get mugged by some alcoholic drug abusers..and get told to go back to there own country and to top it all off they may get into a road rage incident with some of pendles finest, f1 inspired, taxi drivers. These asians are a nuisance arnt they???? Causing bother with there non intergrating ways...id like to see more of them semi naked on a friday night..completely legless without a clue of what they're doing and with whom. Completely bladdered, yes please-rat faced!!! Id like to see them also committ more burglaries and i want equal representation in the heroin community with these asian non intergraters!!! Staying at home pffft!!!![/p][/quote]This is the most ridiculous post in the entire thread. So the white people in England like to have a drink at the weekend - we have done since time immemorial and will continue to do so, I suggest you get used to this and respect our culture, as I am sure we would have to do if we moved to Pakistan or similar. Muslim women are afraid to venture out at night in case they get abused or mugged? Really? Or are they not allowed by hubby? You have completely undermined your argument by as usual deflecting the blame at the white community and not accepting responsibility for anything at all. There IS a problem with opression and proxy voting in the asian community and has been for a long time, the question is will anyone from the 'community' have the stones to admit this? I doubt it because the majority of the councillors or community leaders have been 'elected' into place.[/p][/quote]I dont have to respect the drinking culture so take a running jump if you think im going to fall in line. If that upsets you then go and drown yourself in a drink 👍 We're obviously scraping the barrell here with the amount of intelligence on display..the above post you quoted...sarcasm???[/p][/quote]No you don't and that is because in THIS country we allow you to respct YOUR opinions. . I'm off now to opress my wife and force her to vote how I want her to[/p][/quote]LOL jack daniels
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3:15pm Fri 25 May 12

Tell-it-how-it-is says...

jack daniels wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
Iranian and Kurdish? Marrying first cousins? Muslims? What the heck are you on about? This isnt a religious forum and we arnt discussing international trends..we're on about whats going on at our door steps!! If you're that concerned with iran and the kurds, get your backside there and take action, infact dont stop there, get to iraq as well and afghanistan im sure they'd welcome you with open arms (or more likely remove your head from your torso). I suggest you keep the debate local😄
also known as - I got my a$$ whipped by facts and figures and decided to get the LT to delete the comment!
I didnt get anyone to delete your comments..as a matter of fact they deleted my response.. Maybe a bit risque for you white boys :)
[quote][p][bold]jack daniels[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: Iranian and Kurdish? Marrying first cousins? Muslims? What the heck are you on about? This isnt a religious forum and we arnt discussing international trends..we're on about whats going on at our door steps!! If you're that concerned with iran and the kurds, get your backside there and take action, infact dont stop there, get to iraq as well and afghanistan im sure they'd welcome you with open arms (or more likely remove your head from your torso). I suggest you keep the debate local😄[/p][/quote]also known as - I got my a$$ whipped by facts and figures and decided to get the LT to delete the comment![/p][/quote]I didnt get anyone to delete your comments..as a matter of fact they deleted my response.. Maybe a bit risque for you white boys :) Tell-it-how-it-is
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3:22pm Fri 25 May 12

Tell-it-how-it-is says...

jack daniels wrote:
did you smash it? wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
berniep wrote: Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.
The asian women in pendle probably dont feel save to go out as they feel they might get abused by some drunk idiots and get told to get back to there own country, they might get mugged by some alcoholic drug abusers..and get told to go back to there own country and to top it all off they may get into a road rage incident with some of pendles finest, f1 inspired, taxi drivers. These asians are a nuisance arnt they???? Causing bother with there non intergrating ways...id like to see more of them semi naked on a friday night..completely legless without a clue of what they're doing and with whom. Completely bladdered, yes please-rat faced!!! Id like to see them also committ more burglaries and i want equal representation in the heroin community with these asian non intergraters!!! Staying at home pffft!!!!
This is the most ridiculous post in the entire thread. So the white people in England like to have a drink at the weekend - we have done since time immemorial and will continue to do so, I suggest you get used to this and respect our culture, as I am sure we would have to do if we moved to Pakistan or similar. Muslim women are afraid to venture out at night in case they get abused or mugged? Really? Or are they not allowed by hubby? You have completely undermined your argument by as usual deflecting the blame at the white community and not accepting responsibility for anything at all. There IS a problem with opression and proxy voting in the asian community and has been for a long time, the question is will anyone from the 'community' have the stones to admit this? I doubt it because the majority of the councillors or community leaders have been 'elected' into place.
Well said 'did you smash it?'. You can see how he wiggles and squirms when pinned down with facts. The guy must really have a problem with the country that he lives in. I can guess that you or I wouldn't live in Saudi Arabia becauseof their strict alcohol laws, but this chump clearly doesn't have the guts to comprehend this logic.

Never stop speaking your mind.
Im not wriggling out of anything👌 merely identifying the grotty conduct you chaps call your 'culture'-one aspect of it anyway. Heres something.. It isnt your country and it isnt your culture. Im one of the more libereal minded chaps that was born here...its people like yourselves that will turn the isolated individuals to not making a statement on a forum with a post, but through placing a back pack on there back.

The white community has its own issues..i'll let you focus on those..im sure the kurds will sort there own :)
[quote][p][bold]jack daniels[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]berniep[/bold] wrote: Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.[/p][/quote]The asian women in pendle probably dont feel save to go out as they feel they might get abused by some drunk idiots and get told to get back to there own country, they might get mugged by some alcoholic drug abusers..and get told to go back to there own country and to top it all off they may get into a road rage incident with some of pendles finest, f1 inspired, taxi drivers. These asians are a nuisance arnt they???? Causing bother with there non intergrating ways...id like to see more of them semi naked on a friday night..completely legless without a clue of what they're doing and with whom. Completely bladdered, yes please-rat faced!!! Id like to see them also committ more burglaries and i want equal representation in the heroin community with these asian non intergraters!!! Staying at home pffft!!!![/p][/quote]This is the most ridiculous post in the entire thread. So the white people in England like to have a drink at the weekend - we have done since time immemorial and will continue to do so, I suggest you get used to this and respect our culture, as I am sure we would have to do if we moved to Pakistan or similar. Muslim women are afraid to venture out at night in case they get abused or mugged? Really? Or are they not allowed by hubby? You have completely undermined your argument by as usual deflecting the blame at the white community and not accepting responsibility for anything at all. There IS a problem with opression and proxy voting in the asian community and has been for a long time, the question is will anyone from the 'community' have the stones to admit this? I doubt it because the majority of the councillors or community leaders have been 'elected' into place.[/p][/quote]Well said 'did you smash it?'. You can see how he wiggles and squirms when pinned down with facts. The guy must really have a problem with the country that he lives in. I can guess that you or I wouldn't live in Saudi Arabia becauseof their strict alcohol laws, but this chump clearly doesn't have the guts to comprehend this logic. Never stop speaking your mind.[/p][/quote]Im not wriggling out of anything👌 merely identifying the grotty conduct you chaps call your 'culture'-one aspect of it anyway. Heres something.. It isnt your country and it isnt your culture. Im one of the more libereal minded chaps that was born here...its people like yourselves that will turn the isolated individuals to not making a statement on a forum with a post, but through placing a back pack on there back. The white community has its own issues..i'll let you focus on those..im sure the kurds will sort there own :) Tell-it-how-it-is
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3:28pm Fri 25 May 12

Tell-it-how-it-is says...

did you smash it? wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
did you smash it? wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
berniep wrote:
Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.
The asian women in pendle probably dont feel save to go out as they feel they might get abused by some drunk idiots and get told to get back to there own country, they might get mugged by some alcoholic drug abusers..and get told to go back to there own country and to top it all off they may get into a road rage incident with some of pendles finest, f1 inspired, taxi drivers. These asians are a nuisance arnt they???? Causing bother with there non intergrating ways...id like to see more of them semi naked on a friday night..completely legless without a clue of what they're doing and with whom. Completely bladdered, yes please-rat faced!!! Id like to see them also committ more burglaries and i want equal representation in the heroin community with these asian non intergraters!!! Staying at home pffft!!!!
This is the most ridiculous post in the entire thread.
So the white people in England like to have a drink at the weekend - we have done since time immemorial and will continue to do so, I suggest you get used to this and respect our culture, as I am sure we would have to do if we moved to Pakistan or similar.
Muslim women are afraid to venture out at night in case they get abused or mugged? Really? Or are they not allowed by hubby?
You have completely undermined your argument by as usual deflecting the blame at the white community and not accepting responsibility for anything at all.
There IS a problem with opression and proxy voting in the asian community and has been for a long time, the question is will anyone from the 'community' have the stones to admit this? I doubt it because the majority of the councillors or community leaders have been 'elected' into place.
I dont have to respect the drinking culture so take a running jump if you think im going to fall in line. If that upsets you then go and drown yourself in a drink 👍

We're obviously scraping the barrell here with the amount of intelligence on display..the above post you quoted...sarcasm???
No you don't and that is because in THIS country we allow you to respct YOUR opinions.
.
I'm off now to opress my wife and force her to vote how I want her to
Now thats intergration👍
[quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]berniep[/bold] wrote: Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.[/p][/quote]The asian women in pendle probably dont feel save to go out as they feel they might get abused by some drunk idiots and get told to get back to there own country, they might get mugged by some alcoholic drug abusers..and get told to go back to there own country and to top it all off they may get into a road rage incident with some of pendles finest, f1 inspired, taxi drivers. These asians are a nuisance arnt they???? Causing bother with there non intergrating ways...id like to see more of them semi naked on a friday night..completely legless without a clue of what they're doing and with whom. Completely bladdered, yes please-rat faced!!! Id like to see them also committ more burglaries and i want equal representation in the heroin community with these asian non intergraters!!! Staying at home pffft!!!![/p][/quote]This is the most ridiculous post in the entire thread. So the white people in England like to have a drink at the weekend - we have done since time immemorial and will continue to do so, I suggest you get used to this and respect our culture, as I am sure we would have to do if we moved to Pakistan or similar. Muslim women are afraid to venture out at night in case they get abused or mugged? Really? Or are they not allowed by hubby? You have completely undermined your argument by as usual deflecting the blame at the white community and not accepting responsibility for anything at all. There IS a problem with opression and proxy voting in the asian community and has been for a long time, the question is will anyone from the 'community' have the stones to admit this? I doubt it because the majority of the councillors or community leaders have been 'elected' into place.[/p][/quote]I dont have to respect the drinking culture so take a running jump if you think im going to fall in line. If that upsets you then go and drown yourself in a drink 👍 We're obviously scraping the barrell here with the amount of intelligence on display..the above post you quoted...sarcasm???[/p][/quote]No you don't and that is because in THIS country we allow you to respct YOUR opinions. . I'm off now to opress my wife and force her to vote how I want her to[/p][/quote]Now thats intergration👍 Tell-it-how-it-is
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3:35pm Fri 25 May 12

did you smash it? says...

Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
did you smash it? wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
did you smash it? wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
berniep wrote:
Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.
The asian women in pendle probably dont feel save to go out as they feel they might get abused by some drunk idiots and get told to get back to there own country, they might get mugged by some alcoholic drug abusers..and get told to go back to there own country and to top it all off they may get into a road rage incident with some of pendles finest, f1 inspired, taxi drivers. These asians are a nuisance arnt they???? Causing bother with there non intergrating ways...id like to see more of them semi naked on a friday night..completely legless without a clue of what they're doing and with whom. Completely bladdered, yes please-rat faced!!! Id like to see them also committ more burglaries and i want equal representation in the heroin community with these asian non intergraters!!! Staying at home pffft!!!!
This is the most ridiculous post in the entire thread.
So the white people in England like to have a drink at the weekend - we have done since time immemorial and will continue to do so, I suggest you get used to this and respect our culture, as I am sure we would have to do if we moved to Pakistan or similar.
Muslim women are afraid to venture out at night in case they get abused or mugged? Really? Or are they not allowed by hubby?
You have completely undermined your argument by as usual deflecting the blame at the white community and not accepting responsibility for anything at all.
There IS a problem with opression and proxy voting in the asian community and has been for a long time, the question is will anyone from the 'community' have the stones to admit this? I doubt it because the majority of the councillors or community leaders have been 'elected' into place.
I dont have to respect the drinking culture so take a running jump if you think im going to fall in line. If that upsets you then go and drown yourself in a drink 👍

We're obviously scraping the barrell here with the amount of intelligence on display..the above post you quoted...sarcasm???
No you don't and that is because in THIS country we allow you to respct YOUR opinions.
.
I'm off now to opress my wife and force her to vote how I want her to
Now thats intergration👍
No, intEgration would be when you can spell the word correctly.
[quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]berniep[/bold] wrote: Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.[/p][/quote]The asian women in pendle probably dont feel save to go out as they feel they might get abused by some drunk idiots and get told to get back to there own country, they might get mugged by some alcoholic drug abusers..and get told to go back to there own country and to top it all off they may get into a road rage incident with some of pendles finest, f1 inspired, taxi drivers. These asians are a nuisance arnt they???? Causing bother with there non intergrating ways...id like to see more of them semi naked on a friday night..completely legless without a clue of what they're doing and with whom. Completely bladdered, yes please-rat faced!!! Id like to see them also committ more burglaries and i want equal representation in the heroin community with these asian non intergraters!!! Staying at home pffft!!!![/p][/quote]This is the most ridiculous post in the entire thread. So the white people in England like to have a drink at the weekend - we have done since time immemorial and will continue to do so, I suggest you get used to this and respect our culture, as I am sure we would have to do if we moved to Pakistan or similar. Muslim women are afraid to venture out at night in case they get abused or mugged? Really? Or are they not allowed by hubby? You have completely undermined your argument by as usual deflecting the blame at the white community and not accepting responsibility for anything at all. There IS a problem with opression and proxy voting in the asian community and has been for a long time, the question is will anyone from the 'community' have the stones to admit this? I doubt it because the majority of the councillors or community leaders have been 'elected' into place.[/p][/quote]I dont have to respect the drinking culture so take a running jump if you think im going to fall in line. If that upsets you then go and drown yourself in a drink 👍 We're obviously scraping the barrell here with the amount of intelligence on display..the above post you quoted...sarcasm???[/p][/quote]No you don't and that is because in THIS country we allow you to respct YOUR opinions. . I'm off now to opress my wife and force her to vote how I want her to[/p][/quote]Now thats intergration👍[/p][/quote]No, intEgration would be when you can spell the word correctly. did you smash it?
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3:40pm Fri 25 May 12

did you smash it? says...

Also my comment was meant to be a reply to your witty reposte of "going to drink a cold carling with some white chicks and wear a burka" but I appear to have quoted the wrong slice of bullsh*t.
Also my comment was meant to be a reply to your witty reposte of "going to drink a cold carling with some white chicks and wear a burka" but I appear to have quoted the wrong slice of bullsh*t. did you smash it?
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6:29pm Fri 25 May 12

Tell-it-how-it-is says...

did you smash it? wrote:
Also my comment was meant to be a reply to your witty reposte of "going to drink a cold carling with some white chicks and wear a burka" but I appear to have quoted the wrong slice of bullsh*t.
You can tie your wife to a lampost and feed her pedigree chum....tis really not my concern!! Just make sure shes got plenty of cleavage and leg on display for the passers by!
[quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: Also my comment was meant to be a reply to your witty reposte of "going to drink a cold carling with some white chicks and wear a burka" but I appear to have quoted the wrong slice of bullsh*t.[/p][/quote]You can tie your wife to a lampost and feed her pedigree chum....tis really not my concern!! Just make sure shes got plenty of cleavage and leg on display for the passers by! Tell-it-how-it-is
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7:15pm Fri 25 May 12

everywhere is sh1t says...

let you are a bloody joke deleteing my comment about ,tell-it-how-it-is ,what a moron
let you are a bloody joke deleteing my comment about ,tell-it-how-it-is ,what a moron everywhere is sh1t
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7:33pm Fri 25 May 12

jack daniels says...

Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
jack daniels wrote:
did you smash it? wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
berniep wrote: Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.
The asian women in pendle probably dont feel save to go out as they feel they might get abused by some drunk idiots and get told to get back to there own country, they might get mugged by some alcoholic drug abusers..and get told to go back to there own country and to top it all off they may get into a road rage incident with some of pendles finest, f1 inspired, taxi drivers. These asians are a nuisance arnt they???? Causing bother with there non intergrating ways...id like to see more of them semi naked on a friday night..completely legless without a clue of what they're doing and with whom. Completely bladdered, yes please-rat faced!!! Id like to see them also committ more burglaries and i want equal representation in the heroin community with these asian non intergraters!!! Staying at home pffft!!!!
This is the most ridiculous post in the entire thread. So the white people in England like to have a drink at the weekend - we have done since time immemorial and will continue to do so, I suggest you get used to this and respect our culture, as I am sure we would have to do if we moved to Pakistan or similar. Muslim women are afraid to venture out at night in case they get abused or mugged? Really? Or are they not allowed by hubby? You have completely undermined your argument by as usual deflecting the blame at the white community and not accepting responsibility for anything at all. There IS a problem with opression and proxy voting in the asian community and has been for a long time, the question is will anyone from the 'community' have the stones to admit this? I doubt it because the majority of the councillors or community leaders have been 'elected' into place.
Well said 'did you smash it?'. You can see how he wiggles and squirms when pinned down with facts. The guy must really have a problem with the country that he lives in. I can guess that you or I wouldn't live in Saudi Arabia becauseof their strict alcohol laws, but this chump clearly doesn't have the guts to comprehend this logic.

Never stop speaking your mind.
Im not wriggling out of anything👌 merely identifying the grotty conduct you chaps call your 'culture'-one aspect of it anyway. Heres something.. It isnt your country and it isnt your culture. Im one of the more libereal minded chaps that was born here...its people like yourselves that will turn the isolated individuals to not making a statement on a forum with a post, but through placing a back pack on there back.

The white community has its own issues..i'll let you focus on those..im sure the kurds will sort there own :)
well we where talking about honour killings but the fact, as supplied by a British based Kurdish womens support group scared you off. You talk about being liberal yet you've not supported any of your racist comments with facts. Why you still go on about white people boozing I don't know...
[quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jack daniels[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]berniep[/bold] wrote: Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.[/p][/quote]The asian women in pendle probably dont feel save to go out as they feel they might get abused by some drunk idiots and get told to get back to there own country, they might get mugged by some alcoholic drug abusers..and get told to go back to there own country and to top it all off they may get into a road rage incident with some of pendles finest, f1 inspired, taxi drivers. These asians are a nuisance arnt they???? Causing bother with there non intergrating ways...id like to see more of them semi naked on a friday night..completely legless without a clue of what they're doing and with whom. Completely bladdered, yes please-rat faced!!! Id like to see them also committ more burglaries and i want equal representation in the heroin community with these asian non intergraters!!! Staying at home pffft!!!![/p][/quote]This is the most ridiculous post in the entire thread. So the white people in England like to have a drink at the weekend - we have done since time immemorial and will continue to do so, I suggest you get used to this and respect our culture, as I am sure we would have to do if we moved to Pakistan or similar. Muslim women are afraid to venture out at night in case they get abused or mugged? Really? Or are they not allowed by hubby? You have completely undermined your argument by as usual deflecting the blame at the white community and not accepting responsibility for anything at all. There IS a problem with opression and proxy voting in the asian community and has been for a long time, the question is will anyone from the 'community' have the stones to admit this? I doubt it because the majority of the councillors or community leaders have been 'elected' into place.[/p][/quote]Well said 'did you smash it?'. You can see how he wiggles and squirms when pinned down with facts. The guy must really have a problem with the country that he lives in. I can guess that you or I wouldn't live in Saudi Arabia becauseof their strict alcohol laws, but this chump clearly doesn't have the guts to comprehend this logic. Never stop speaking your mind.[/p][/quote]Im not wriggling out of anything👌 merely identifying the grotty conduct you chaps call your 'culture'-one aspect of it anyway. Heres something.. It isnt your country and it isnt your culture. Im one of the more libereal minded chaps that was born here...its people like yourselves that will turn the isolated individuals to not making a statement on a forum with a post, but through placing a back pack on there back. The white community has its own issues..i'll let you focus on those..im sure the kurds will sort there own :)[/p][/quote]well we where talking about honour killings but the fact, as supplied by a British based Kurdish womens support group scared you off. You talk about being liberal yet you've not supported any of your racist comments with facts. Why you still go on about white people boozing I don't know... jack daniels
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7:34pm Fri 25 May 12

jack daniels says...

everywhere is sh1t wrote:
let you are a bloody joke deleteing my comment about ,tell-it-how-it-is ,what a moron
indeed.
[quote][p][bold]everywhere is sh1t[/bold] wrote: let you are a bloody joke deleteing my comment about ,tell-it-how-it-is ,what a moron[/p][/quote]indeed. jack daniels
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8:28pm Fri 25 May 12

Tell-it-how-it-is says...

everywhere is sh1t wrote:
let you are a bloody joke deleteing my comment about ,tell-it-how-it-is ,what a moron
you're the moron, its not been an evening paper for the best part of the last 3-4 years you pillock👍👍
[quote][p][bold]everywhere is sh1t[/bold] wrote: let you are a bloody joke deleteing my comment about ,tell-it-how-it-is ,what a moron[/p][/quote]you're the moron, its not been an evening paper for the best part of the last 3-4 years you pillock👍👍 Tell-it-how-it-is
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8:40pm Fri 25 May 12

Tell-it-how-it-is says...

jack daniels wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
jack daniels wrote:
did you smash it? wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
berniep wrote: Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.
The asian women in pendle probably dont feel save to go out as they feel they might get abused by some drunk idiots and get told to get back to there own country, they might get mugged by some alcoholic drug abusers..and get told to go back to there own country and to top it all off they may get into a road rage incident with some of pendles finest, f1 inspired, taxi drivers. These asians are a nuisance arnt they???? Causing bother with there non intergrating ways...id like to see more of them semi naked on a friday night..completely legless without a clue of what they're doing and with whom. Completely bladdered, yes please-rat faced!!! Id like to see them also committ more burglaries and i want equal representation in the heroin community with these asian non intergraters!!! Staying at home pffft!!!!
This is the most ridiculous post in the entire thread. So the white people in England like to have a drink at the weekend - we have done since time immemorial and will continue to do so, I suggest you get used to this and respect our culture, as I am sure we would have to do if we moved to Pakistan or similar. Muslim women are afraid to venture out at night in case they get abused or mugged? Really? Or are they not allowed by hubby? You have completely undermined your argument by as usual deflecting the blame at the white community and not accepting responsibility for anything at all. There IS a problem with opression and proxy voting in the asian community and has been for a long time, the question is will anyone from the 'community' have the stones to admit this? I doubt it because the majority of the councillors or community leaders have been 'elected' into place.
Well said 'did you smash it?'. You can see how he wiggles and squirms when pinned down with facts. The guy must really have a problem with the country that he lives in. I can guess that you or I wouldn't live in Saudi Arabia becauseof their strict alcohol laws, but this chump clearly doesn't have the guts to comprehend this logic.

Never stop speaking your mind.
Im not wriggling out of anything👌 merely identifying the grotty conduct you chaps call your 'culture'-one aspect of it anyway. Heres something.. It isnt your country and it isnt your culture. Im one of the more libereal minded chaps that was born here...its people like yourselves that will turn the isolated individuals to not making a statement on a forum with a post, but through placing a back pack on there back.

The white community has its own issues..i'll let you focus on those..im sure the kurds will sort there own :)
well we where talking about honour killings but the fact, as supplied by a British based Kurdish womens support group scared you off. You talk about being liberal yet you've not supported any of your racist comments with facts. Why you still go on about white people boozing I don't know...
"well we where talking about honour killings"

I didnt realise you had learning difficulties!!

Its obvious ive ruffled the feathers of some of you honkeys?!!

But please dont be alarmed...im not at all racist, theres just too many english pillocks-such as yourselves who obviously havnt the basic grasp of society or much else..its people like you i cant stand👍👍

British based kurd support group? I bet your white arse wouldnt know a kurdish face if it was parked 2mm from your nose..im not the least bit interested..im not a kurd, ive never met one, im not concerned with there struggle(but i wish them all the best) and neither should you be.

Why must you poke your nose into there business anyway? Have they invited you to comment on there issues or are you trying to demonstrate you're versed on the subject by pulling some info from google?

Anyway, its friday night, all the underage girls are waiting for me to buy them a drink😉and show them a good time 😉 (then report me to the boys in blue when they realise ive got 15 wives sat in each of my council houses!!).

Peace out....
[quote][p][bold]jack daniels[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jack daniels[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]berniep[/bold] wrote: Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.[/p][/quote]The asian women in pendle probably dont feel save to go out as they feel they might get abused by some drunk idiots and get told to get back to there own country, they might get mugged by some alcoholic drug abusers..and get told to go back to there own country and to top it all off they may get into a road rage incident with some of pendles finest, f1 inspired, taxi drivers. These asians are a nuisance arnt they???? Causing bother with there non intergrating ways...id like to see more of them semi naked on a friday night..completely legless without a clue of what they're doing and with whom. Completely bladdered, yes please-rat faced!!! Id like to see them also committ more burglaries and i want equal representation in the heroin community with these asian non intergraters!!! Staying at home pffft!!!![/p][/quote]This is the most ridiculous post in the entire thread. So the white people in England like to have a drink at the weekend - we have done since time immemorial and will continue to do so, I suggest you get used to this and respect our culture, as I am sure we would have to do if we moved to Pakistan or similar. Muslim women are afraid to venture out at night in case they get abused or mugged? Really? Or are they not allowed by hubby? You have completely undermined your argument by as usual deflecting the blame at the white community and not accepting responsibility for anything at all. There IS a problem with opression and proxy voting in the asian community and has been for a long time, the question is will anyone from the 'community' have the stones to admit this? I doubt it because the majority of the councillors or community leaders have been 'elected' into place.[/p][/quote]Well said 'did you smash it?'. You can see how he wiggles and squirms when pinned down with facts. The guy must really have a problem with the country that he lives in. I can guess that you or I wouldn't live in Saudi Arabia becauseof their strict alcohol laws, but this chump clearly doesn't have the guts to comprehend this logic. Never stop speaking your mind.[/p][/quote]Im not wriggling out of anything👌 merely identifying the grotty conduct you chaps call your 'culture'-one aspect of it anyway. Heres something.. It isnt your country and it isnt your culture. Im one of the more libereal minded chaps that was born here...its people like yourselves that will turn the isolated individuals to not making a statement on a forum with a post, but through placing a back pack on there back. The white community has its own issues..i'll let you focus on those..im sure the kurds will sort there own :)[/p][/quote]well we where talking about honour killings but the fact, as supplied by a British based Kurdish womens support group scared you off. You talk about being liberal yet you've not supported any of your racist comments with facts. Why you still go on about white people boozing I don't know...[/p][/quote]"well we where talking about honour killings" I didnt realise you had learning difficulties!! Its obvious ive ruffled the feathers of some of you honkeys?!! But please dont be alarmed...im not at all racist, theres just too many english pillocks-such as yourselves who obviously havnt the basic grasp of society or much else..its people like you i cant stand👍👍 British based kurd support group? I bet your white arse wouldnt know a kurdish face if it was parked 2mm from your nose..im not the least bit interested..im not a kurd, ive never met one, im not concerned with there struggle(but i wish them all the best) and neither should you be. Why must you poke your nose into there business anyway? Have they invited you to comment on there issues or are you trying to demonstrate you're versed on the subject by pulling some info from google? Anyway, its friday night, all the underage girls are waiting for me to buy them a drink😉and show them a good time 😉 (then report me to the boys in blue when they realise ive got 15 wives sat in each of my council houses!!). Peace out.... Tell-it-how-it-is
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10:40pm Fri 25 May 12

Tell-it-how-it-is says...

On a much lighter note... Have i got news for you was supeb this evening👌
On a much lighter note... Have i got news for you was supeb this evening👌 Tell-it-how-it-is
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4:15pm Sat 26 May 12

Graham Hartley says...

Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
On a much lighter note... Have i got news for you was supeb this evening👌
Indeed, one of my favourites; for at least the reason that an anagram of 'have I got news for you' is 'I've a young, soft whore'.
[quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: On a much lighter note... Have i got news for you was supeb this evening👌[/p][/quote]Indeed, one of my favourites; for at least the reason that an anagram of 'have I got news for you' is 'I've a young, soft whore'. Graham Hartley
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10:47pm Sat 26 May 12

johndavidsmith says...

British South Asians (particularly Muslims) are committing electoral fraud en masse. Woe is me! And I thought all the news stories about those dastardly brutal South Asian regimes were not true! I really should have paid much more attention during my history lessons, which would have taught me that the South Asian psyche is not genetically predisposed to the current western ideal of elective dictatorship. The predominant South Asian experience is to do it in an in your face kind of way. This is a historic and political fact.

Those who say electoral fraud isn’t happening are the same ones benefitting from it. At best this displays a shocking ignorance of what their party workers are doing. At worst, they actively encourage, conspire and play leading roles in ensuring the right result. They are in no rush to put an end to it and will defiantly shout everything is hunky dory from the rooftops. It is worth bearing in mind that Boundary Commission changes will create a larger Asian vote bank in some constituencies, ripe for the plucking.

Yet who are we to judge? We claim to be the bastions of democracy, championing freedom and a better way of life for all nations. The same nations and their despots whom we continuously arm to the teeth in order that they may kill each other (testing our weapons of mass destruction in the process) and keeping our economies afloat. And every now and again when we don’t get our way, we enter the fray, launching illegal and, on one view, unjust wars against the same tyrants whom we propped up in the first place. Killing countless innocent third world civilians in the process. The ones we’re meant to be helping.

In the overall scheme of things, is it really such a big deal if British South Asian Muslims aren’t particularly interested in supporting our way of doing it? Methinks not – we’ve got plenty of other groups jumping at the bit to participate in the game, thereby lending some credence to our protestations of having good intentions.

Why don’t we just chillax dudes?
British South Asians (particularly Muslims) are committing electoral fraud en masse. Woe is me! And I thought all the news stories about those dastardly brutal South Asian regimes were not true! I really should have paid much more attention during my history lessons, which would have taught me that the South Asian psyche is not genetically predisposed to the current western ideal of elective dictatorship. The predominant South Asian experience is to do it in an in your face kind of way. This is a historic and political fact. Those who say electoral fraud isn’t happening are the same ones benefitting from it. At best this displays a shocking ignorance of what their party workers are doing. At worst, they actively encourage, conspire and play leading roles in ensuring the right result. They are in no rush to put an end to it and will defiantly shout everything is hunky dory from the rooftops. It is worth bearing in mind that Boundary Commission changes will create a larger Asian vote bank in some constituencies, ripe for the plucking. Yet who are we to judge? We claim to be the bastions of democracy, championing freedom and a better way of life for all nations. The same nations and their despots whom we continuously arm to the teeth in order that they may kill each other (testing our weapons of mass destruction in the process) and keeping our economies afloat. And every now and again when we don’t get our way, we enter the fray, launching illegal and, on one view, unjust wars against the same tyrants whom we propped up in the first place. Killing countless innocent third world civilians in the process. The ones we’re meant to be helping. In the overall scheme of things, is it really such a big deal if British South Asian Muslims aren’t particularly interested in supporting our way of doing it? Methinks not – we’ve got plenty of other groups jumping at the bit to participate in the game, thereby lending some credence to our protestations of having good intentions. Why don’t we just chillax dudes? johndavidsmith
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12:50pm Mon 28 May 12

jack daniels says...

Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
jack daniels wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
jack daniels wrote:
did you smash it? wrote:
Tell-it-how-it-is wrote:
berniep wrote: Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.
The asian women in pendle probably dont feel save to go out as they feel they might get abused by some drunk idiots and get told to get back to there own country, they might get mugged by some alcoholic drug abusers..and get told to go back to there own country and to top it all off they may get into a road rage incident with some of pendles finest, f1 inspired, taxi drivers. These asians are a nuisance arnt they???? Causing bother with there non intergrating ways...id like to see more of them semi naked on a friday night..completely legless without a clue of what they're doing and with whom. Completely bladdered, yes please-rat faced!!! Id like to see them also committ more burglaries and i want equal representation in the heroin community with these asian non intergraters!!! Staying at home pffft!!!!
This is the most ridiculous post in the entire thread. So the white people in England like to have a drink at the weekend - we have done since time immemorial and will continue to do so, I suggest you get used to this and respect our culture, as I am sure we would have to do if we moved to Pakistan or similar. Muslim women are afraid to venture out at night in case they get abused or mugged? Really? Or are they not allowed by hubby? You have completely undermined your argument by as usual deflecting the blame at the white community and not accepting responsibility for anything at all. There IS a problem with opression and proxy voting in the asian community and has been for a long time, the question is will anyone from the 'community' have the stones to admit this? I doubt it because the majority of the councillors or community leaders have been 'elected' into place.
Well said 'did you smash it?'. You can see how he wiggles and squirms when pinned down with facts. The guy must really have a problem with the country that he lives in. I can guess that you or I wouldn't live in Saudi Arabia becauseof their strict alcohol laws, but this chump clearly doesn't have the guts to comprehend this logic. Never stop speaking your mind.
Im not wriggling out of anything👌 merely identifying the grotty conduct you chaps call your 'culture'-one aspect of it anyway. Heres something.. It isnt your country and it isnt your culture. Im one of the more libereal minded chaps that was born here...its people like yourselves that will turn the isolated individuals to not making a statement on a forum with a post, but through placing a back pack on there back. The white community has its own issues..i'll let you focus on those..im sure the kurds will sort there own :)
well we where talking about honour killings but the fact, as supplied by a British based Kurdish womens support group scared you off. You talk about being liberal yet you've not supported any of your racist comments with facts. Why you still go on about white people boozing I don't know...
"well we where talking about honour killings" I didnt realise you had learning difficulties!! Its obvious ive ruffled the feathers of some of you honkeys?!! But please dont be alarmed...im not at all racist, theres just too many english pillocks-such as yourselves who obviously havnt the basic grasp of society or much else..its people like you i cant stand👍👍 British based kurd support group? I bet your white arse wouldnt know a kurdish face if it was parked 2mm from your nose..im not the least bit interested..im not a kurd, ive never met one, im not concerned with there struggle(but i wish them all the best) and neither should you be. Why must you poke your nose into there business anyway? Have they invited you to comment on there issues or are you trying to demonstrate you're versed on the subject by pulling some info from google? Anyway, its friday night, all the underage girls are waiting for me to buy them a drink😉and show them a good time 😉 (then report me to the boys in blue when they realise ive got 15 wives sat in each of my council houses!!). Peace out....
What a shame. You try to have a grown up discussion about 21st century issues and it deteriorates into you throwing your teddy into the corner and sulking like a baby troll.

I’m really sorry that my comments and statistics upset you so much that you had to resort to petty names like ‘english pillocks’ and honkey. I’m saddened that you became so flustered that you had to use a disability group as an insult (which is as low as a snake’s b@ll sack), but this says more about you than me.

This also applies about your indifference towards the Kurdish ladies support group and their findings.

It shows you up for what you are.

Finally… The fact you decided sulk on here, insult us grown ups, then end with ‘peace out’ suggests you’ve realised you are out of your depth and have run away with your tail between your legs.
[quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jack daniels[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]jack daniels[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]did you smash it?[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Tell-it-how-it-is[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]berniep[/bold] wrote: Any form of proxy or postal voting is open to fraud. Why do these Asian women not go to polling stations to vote? could it be that they would have to integrate with the wider community or that they just cant be bothered. It has been known for a long time now that there is fraudulent votes with proxy & postal and has been swept under the carpet,glad that somebody has had the b*lls to speak out at last.[/p][/quote]The asian women in pendle probably dont feel save to go out as they feel they might get abused by some drunk idiots and get told to get back to there own country, they might get mugged by some alcoholic drug abusers..and get told to go back to there own country and to top it all off they may get into a road rage incident with some of pendles finest, f1 inspired, taxi drivers. These asians are a nuisance arnt they???? Causing bother with there non intergrating ways...id like to see more of them semi naked on a friday night..completely legless without a clue of what they're doing and with whom. Completely bladdered, yes please-rat faced!!! Id like to see them also committ more burglaries and i want equal representation in the heroin community with these asian non intergraters!!! Staying at home pffft!!!![/p][/quote]This is the most ridiculous post in the entire thread. So the white people in England like to have a drink at the weekend - we have done since time immemorial and will continue to do so, I suggest you get used to this and respect our culture, as I am sure we would have to do if we moved to Pakistan or similar. Muslim women are afraid to venture out at night in case they get abused or mugged? Really? Or are they not allowed by hubby? You have completely undermined your argument by as usual deflecting the blame at the white community and not accepting responsibility for anything at all. There IS a problem with opression and proxy voting in the asian community and has been for a long time, the question is will anyone from the 'community' have the stones to admit this? I doubt it because the majority of the councillors or community leaders have been 'elected' into place.[/p][/quote]Well said 'did you smash it?'. You can see how he wiggles and squirms when pinned down with facts. The guy must really have a problem with the country that he lives in. I can guess that you or I wouldn't live in Saudi Arabia becauseof their strict alcohol laws, but this chump clearly doesn't have the guts to comprehend this logic. Never stop speaking your mind.[/p][/quote]Im not wriggling out of anything👌 merely identifying the grotty conduct you chaps call your 'culture'-one aspect of it anyway. Heres something.. It isnt your country and it isnt your culture. Im one of the more libereal minded chaps that was born here...its people like yourselves that will turn the isolated individuals to not making a statement on a forum with a post, but through placing a back pack on there back. The white community has its own issues..i'll let you focus on those..im sure the kurds will sort there own :)[/p][/quote]well we where talking about honour killings but the fact, as supplied by a British based Kurdish womens support group scared you off. You talk about being liberal yet you've not supported any of your racist comments with facts. Why you still go on about white people boozing I don't know...[/p][/quote]"well we where talking about honour killings" I didnt realise you had learning difficulties!! Its obvious ive ruffled the feathers of some of you honkeys?!! But please dont be alarmed...im not at all racist, theres just too many english pillocks-such as yourselves who obviously havnt the basic grasp of society or much else..its people like you i cant stand👍👍 British based kurd support group? I bet your white arse wouldnt know a kurdish face if it was parked 2mm from your nose..im not the least bit interested..im not a kurd, ive never met one, im not concerned with there struggle(but i wish them all the best) and neither should you be. Why must you poke your nose into there business anyway? Have they invited you to comment on there issues or are you trying to demonstrate you're versed on the subject by pulling some info from google? Anyway, its friday night, all the underage girls are waiting for me to buy them a drink😉and show them a good time 😉 (then report me to the boys in blue when they realise ive got 15 wives sat in each of my council houses!!). Peace out....[/p][/quote]What a shame. You try to have a grown up discussion about 21st century issues and it deteriorates into you throwing your teddy into the corner and sulking like a baby troll. I’m really sorry that my comments and statistics upset you so much that you had to resort to petty names like ‘english pillocks’ and honkey. I’m saddened that you became so flustered that you had to use a disability group as an insult (which is as low as a snake’s b@ll sack), but this says more about you than me. This also applies about your indifference towards the Kurdish ladies support group and their findings. It shows you up for what you are. Finally… The fact you decided sulk on here, insult us grown ups, then end with ‘peace out’ suggests you’ve realised you are out of your depth and have run away with your tail between your legs. jack daniels
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8:24pm Tue 29 May 12

Tell-it-how-it-is says...

Run away? There were far more interesting articles which turned up...and i was busy watching and enjoying Billy Shatner on have i got news for you.

I still havnt met any Kurdish ladies, have you?

Statistics will show whatever you want them to show..ultimately...i
ve lost interest.

Im sure they'll be another interesting topic along shortly..until then ld suggest using your statistic to identify and tackle the many issues in your own community..Mr D👏
Run away? There were far more interesting articles which turned up...and i was busy watching and enjoying Billy Shatner on have i got news for you. I still havnt met any Kurdish ladies, have you? Statistics will show whatever you want them to show..ultimately...i ve lost interest. Im sure they'll be another interesting topic along shortly..until then ld suggest using your statistic to identify and tackle the many issues in your own community..Mr D👏 Tell-it-how-it-is
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