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'Take your bloody veil off'
9:26am Wednesday 7th November 2007
Comments (23)A Muslim woman says she is scared to venture out after being ordered to take off her veil in a terrifying ordeal.
Kauser Bibi was in Oldham Town Centre when she says a man began following her and asking her to take off her veil.
"I had just been to the Halifax bank when this guy started shouting 'Oi' at me. I just carried on walking and ignored him at first. Lots of people were there watching and no-one seemed to notice what was going on.
"He followed me and started shouting at me. I walked towards my car but then things got ugly.
"He kept saying Take your bloody veil off - I want to see your face'. He stood in front of my car and then when I tried to reverse started kicking my car. He was really kicking the car door really hard."
"He was abusing me and saying all sorts of other things.
"I was crying and was so upset and panicked. I didn't know what to do.
Kauser of Blackburn who was in Oldham visiting her relatives says that passers-by then intervened and tried to pull him away but he wouldn't listen to them.
"I called the police from my phone but even when they arrived he still kept saying, 'I want her to take off her veil.' "I was still crying and in shock when I got to the police station.
"I am so glad my car was near by. I dread to think what would have happened if my car was parked further away."
"I go out everywhere and this is the first time anything like this has happened to me."
Her sister-in-law Ruksana Calisir said Kauser didn't even tell her family about the incident until days later.
"I was so angry when I heard about it. She seemed to think there some sort of Baystee in telling us.
"She is a very strong person and nothing seems to bother her but this incident has left in total shock.
"She is absolutely petrified and doesn't want to go out at all now. She is such a good and kind-hearted person I am absolutely disgusted someone would put her through this.
"People need to know that incidents like these take place and if they are not reported then people will get away with it."
Police said a 50-year-old man from Oldham was arrested on suspicion of racially aggravated damage to a vehicle and was bailed, pending further inquiries.
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defeal, says...
4:31pm Wed 7 Nov 07
Forcing someone to remove their veil (legally or otherwise) is just as bad as forcing someone to wear a veil! In both cases the liberty of choice is removed.
reader, Bolton says...
4:41pm Wed 7 Nov 07
Chaz76, Manchester says...
5:20pm Wed 7 Nov 07
Chrisjoy, Münich says...
8:00pm Wed 7 Nov 07
with yoor "reason" wearing trousers should be banned too. They are also affecting society as a whole.
Do you got more funny logic?
There are some reasonable arguments supporting veil to be illegal. Faces are like number plates. If you hide it, you would easier get away with breaking the laws.
All though it's reasonable, I doubt it should be weighted more than freedom of speech, where your clothing is a language.
Getting rid of muslims' veils can only be done by getting rid of islam.
Focus on the sickness and stop treating the symptoms!
Anthony, Earlsfield says...
11:58pm Wed 7 Nov 07
Tom, Australia says...
7:11am Thu 8 Nov 07
Don't forget that 6+ months ago, a wanted male criminal fled the UK by wearing an hijab, and the stupid customs officer "respected" the "ladies" decision to wear an hijab. With all the PC in the UK these days, any official who asks someone to remove an hijab (Jack Straw excepted) will be mercilessly berated.
One good way to demonstrate the stupidity of allowing widespread wearing of hijabs, would be for 100 large males to assemble together, all of them wearing hijabs!! One or two of them can openly commit some grievious crimes, and then effortlessly merge back into the 100 strong crowd hijabs. Hey!!! The police cannot arrest 100 people, and if they did, you just sue them for false arrest. It would be so funny, because society would become so lawless if everyone was allowed to wear hijabs.
Mark Parker, Oldham says...
8:57am Thu 8 Nov 07
jamil, Bradford says...
10:40am Thu 8 Nov 07
H, Bolton says...
2:52pm Thu 8 Nov 07
Chaz if you are a muslim you need to check with a mufti if you need to say the shahada again. The quran and the sunnah clearly and un ambigiously state that wearing a veil is obligatory. If someone chooses not too that is between them and their creator. If the quran was in th middle ages why is it that what the quran said 1400 years ago is just being proven now by science. Take the human embryo or the bees. As for living here like the hosts. You have no room to talk. Look at the history books and for contempoary examples 'jamils' comments. Wherever the brits went in their conquered 'british empire' they imposed their way of life.
Chaz76, Manchester says...
4:05pm Thu 8 Nov 07
I was saying that you are allowed to wear whatever you like in this country. Whether you choose to wear much less or much more brings a set of reactions consequences which the law cannot always protect you from.
Overzealous interpretation of the Quran and Sunnah has led us into a state where we are now. This proves more why Ijtehaad should return in its fullness. I have suppressed a fuller response since this forum is frequented by non Muslims and disruptive elements.
Imran, Blackburn says...
4:21pm Thu 8 Nov 07
AHas, says...
9:39pm Thu 8 Nov 07
Its the peoples choice what they want to wear. Muslims have modesty they dont go round with shorts and skirts; is that why you get so angry?
Burnley Resident, Burnley says...
1:08am Fri 9 Nov 07
I have seen people wear literally almost everything in the UK,From Superman costumes to only a vest and shorts, but for some reasons, even our own Muslims, think the veil should not be worn?
If they want to wear it, let them wear it.
I mean whats it to do with us !?
reader, Bolton says...
10:59am Fri 9 Nov 07
H wrote:I am very interested in the quotes from the quran and hadith which 'clearly and unambiguously state that wearing a veil is obligatory' - please enlighten me.
First to all those apologetic and ill informed muslims who have a very basic and sometimes non existent knowledge and understanding of deen, please get your facts right. Chaz if you are a muslim you need to check with a mufti if you need to say the shahada again. The quran and the sunnah clearly and un ambigiously state that wearing a veil is obligatory. If someone chooses not too that is between them and their creator. If the quran was in th middle ages why is it that what the quran said 1400 years ago is just being proven now by science. Take the human embryo or the bees. As for living here like the hosts. You have no room to talk. Look at the history books and for contempoary examples 'jamils' comments. Wherever the brits went in their conquered 'british empire' they imposed their way of life.
Zaid Hussain, England says...
5:26pm Sat 10 Nov 07
Tom wrote:Ton, keep your opinions to yourself at least we brits don't strand asylum seekers on ships int he middle of the ocean - and wasn't it not many years ago - your leaders decided to disrespect Our Queen. So don't go givbing us lectures about how to run our country.
Folks, Don\'t forget that 6+ months ago, a wanted male criminal fled the UK by wearing an hijab, and the stupid customs officer \"respected\" the \"ladies\" decision to wear an hijab. With all the PC in the UK these days, any official who asks someone to remove an hijab (Jack Straw excepted) will be mercilessly berated. One good way to demonstrate the stupidity of allowing widespread wearing of hijabs, would be for 100 large males to assemble together, all of them wearing hijabs!! One or two of them can openly commit some grievious crimes, and then effortlessly merge back into the 100 strong crowd hijabs. Hey!!! The police cannot arrest 100 people, and if they did, you just sue them for false arrest. It would be so funny, because society would become so lawless if everyone was allowed to wear hijabs.
Imran, Blackburn says...
1:06am Sun 11 Nov 07
reader wrote:H of Bolton, your silence on this subject is deafening!
H wrote:I am very interested in the quotes from the quran and hadith which 'clearly and unambiguously state that wearing a veil is obligatory' - please enlighten me.
First to all those apologetic and ill informed muslims who have a very basic and sometimes non existent knowledge and understanding of deen, please get your facts right. Chaz if you are a muslim you need to check with a mufti if you need to say the shahada again. The quran and the sunnah clearly and un ambigiously state that wearing a veil is obligatory. If someone chooses not too that is between them and their creator. If the quran was in th middle ages why is it that what the quran said 1400 years ago is just being proven now by science. Take the human embryo or the bees. As for living here like the hosts. You have no room to talk. Look at the history books and for contempoary examples 'jamils' comments. Wherever the brits went in their conquered 'british empire' they imposed their way of life.
JT, australia says...
11:36am Sun 11 Nov 07
when I emigrated to australia in 1965
I soon learned if you want to start a new life in another country
dont bring you old one with you
quote
Sam, says...
12:43pm Tue 20 Nov 07
No one has the right to tell anyone what they can and cant wear.
The guy should get a job rather then harrassing women.
No one has the right to violate someones space regradless of what they are wearing.
It doesnt matter what country you are in!!!
The comments above are cleary from uneducated, uncultured, narrow minded individuals!!!
Stacey Aslam, Oldham says...
10:31am Sat 8 Dec 07
Arsalan Goldberg, UK says...
7:01pm Sat 22 Dec 07
Racism against Muslims is legal in the UK.
Hypocrisy, Earth says...
7:05pm Sat 22 Dec 07
If the British invade nations to force British values on others what makes anyone think the Bushs pet regime here will give people the right to follow Islamic values here.
Freedom is hypocrisy, simple as that.
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Amir, UK says...
3:26am Tue 8 Apr 08
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chaz76, Manchester says...
12:23pm Wed 7 Nov 07
The veil (niqab and/or burqa) is an outdated concept. It belongs to a bygone age in a different culture when women were supposed to stay at home and were suppressed. Imams are spineless to do Ijtehaad (derive laws and inter/extrapolate from Quran and Sunnah)to outlaw the nicab/burqa and so we are left with spineless views like "she can wear it if she wants". By wearing a nicab/burqa it's not herself who is affected but society as a whole.
But actions like that described above will only serve to create a negative reaction thus making the case stronger for nicab/burqa to be worn. It needs a sea change from ulema. Revive Ijtehaad or Islam will become a set of rules and regulations confined to the middle ages.